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 Re: How to practice Mozart
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2018-06-24 00:07

Yes Tony you are correct. Even the cadenza in the second movement of this Concerto is completely left out. People just don't believe me, but that's OK Tony. Don't care! If Mozart leaves out notes completely why bother to put in slurs and articulation marks! Mozart didn't want to bother! He wrote for his own pro orchestra.

Mozart lets the players decide what to do with it. Some players often use the the Quintet as the cadenza, which surely fits well in the Concerto and you can't go wrong. This is what Marcellus did.

So people should read more about this great composer. Play other works such as violin music for sight reading and you'd be surprised how little if any markings there are. Then have more confidence when stating when I'm wrong. Sure I can be wrong. After all most or part of THIS concerto has been destroyed and who knows where it is located. Until then we must believe he didn't use much in expressing slurs and articulation. He died young and wrote about 650 pieces. Added there are probably around 650 different translations of this 1 Concerto. Marcellus was firm about which translation his students used. It surely wasn't the Bellison edition. So let's all agree that Mozart wrote with very few guidelines and mainly wrote the scores with notes in mind and nothing else. Let's assume we both are wrong. Because I don't care!

Here's another interesting fact if anyone wishes to research this and learn more. Mozart really never erased any of his music. Meaning that once the piece was completed that was it. So many others, such as Bach and pre Bach during Counterpoint composing. Once the notes were on paper nothing changed. But we have these dam people who transcribed the pieces according to what they thought the composers wanted. Most of them failed. Including Bellison with this Concerto. Regardless of how bad it is we have pencils to fix the errors. So it's a moot point in my mind. We have the liberties to play the piece any way we wish.

But this major breakthrough in this form of writing then erasing was actually Beethoven. Maybe not the first composer, but surely one of the first major masters. Now Beethoven made sure every note, every slur, every accent, was what he wanted. He rewrote so much. For example the 9th Sym was written without the choir but then added as a last thought, to complete this last amazing work. Also a lot of his works were started early on but not completed in order. He'd put pieces aside and finish them later. For example his 6th sym was started early on but it took awhile to finish it. Same with the 9th. Don't believe me? Go look it up. Go study Mozart too as well as Bach. It's called Music History. You can take it at your better conservatories and well worth your time. Also, Form and Analysis. Then you really begin to see what is behind the minds of these great composers. Surely a favorite 2 years worth of classes - Form and Analysis. Sadly a lot of schools don't offer this.


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