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Author: awildman
Date: 2017-12-31 08:19
"Regarding CNC, I am not sure about the law but I assume that mobile phone manufactures like Huawei or XiaoMi (or their suppliers) certainly have been using CNC technology for a long time. Maybe someone can check the law to make sure?"
High tech (electronics) versus low tech (musical instruments) are completely different when it comes to automation and precision. High precision electronics require more precision, which you get with CNC machinery.
"I also don't agree with your theory of culture." How is the method and quality of manufacturing not a reflection of ANY culture? Study modern Chinese history, especially as it relates to the modernization explosion they have been experiencing in the last half-century. Subsistence living to modern powerhouse in 50 years etc. There are a lot of old ways still in the culture. Manufacturing is very new. Study this stuff, and you'll understand why and how they do the things they do.
"there is a need for super cheap instruments"
I completely disagree. Most of these never really see play. They are little better than the proverbial snake oil from a market perspective.
"Chinese manufactures are wise enough to not enter the high quality market"
But they entered the high quality market with electronics and became a world powerhouse, yes? Anything is possible with the right direction and marketing, especially if a company could make a high quality instrument for significantly cheaper than the competition. Also, China is not an invention and marketing machine (at least when it comes to their exports). They are a cheap labor machine with loose environmental laws. {as an aside, there are some fantastic student violins coming out of places in China, and even some much more expensive ones. No reason this couldn't be done with other instruments as well.}
"With regarding to Buffet's factory"
Student instruments. Prodige and such. Bodies made in France, shipped to China where they are finished. They moved the operation there for quality or cost? You tell me.
"Anyways, your statement is a broad and untrue generalization."
I didn't say anything incorrect or untrue. Not liking my words doesn't make me incorrect. Besides, I don't think we disagree as much as you let on. ;-)
"You could just have someone with a solid concept designing instruments and have them Made in china. Oh wait, Ridenour did that."
This is common business practice, with all manufacturing. Clothes, electronics, etc. China is not an invention and marketing machine, they are a cheap labor machine and have loose environmental laws. Much of what China makes had its design originate outside the country.
"What does this have to do with quality? With the right tools, any monkey could forge and solder keys together with the right tools."
Correct. But you have to pay for the materials and the extra labor, which increases the selling price of the instrument. Do you really think Ridenour's Chinese factory is incapable of making and putting on non-bendy keys? Or is this simply a cost versus quality choice that Ridenour made? Cupronickel is the cheapest of the cheap, man. There are lots of other options in China, both cast and forged. They are just more expensive.
"is that so? CNCing a key and then moutning it by hand should be legal in China too, but I'm no expert."
China cares more about employing their people than about automation, and I can hardly blame them. I'm sure there are exceptions or allowances, but the general rule does exist. You would have to ask somebody more knowledgeable than I if you're interested in specifics.
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