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    | Author: klim Date:   2017-10-23 01:30
 
 I'm trying to work out the most efficient fingering for clarion D# to F# to F to D on a Normandy 4 that has no LH D# key. The RH D# key pretty much dictates that F# is played with RH middle hole. The tricky part is F# (RH middle hole) to F (RH first hole), which I can do but it seems like there should be a more elegant solution. Any tips?
 
 
 
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    | Author: fskelley Date:   2017-10-23 02:23
 
 Try fingering the F as LH x x x RH o x x with the LH F#/C# lever. That's a solid and in tune F natural for me. Then the 2nd D is as normal. I'm sure there are alternatives- mine is just from experimentation a couple minutes ago.
 
 Edited to add- and while I was playing one of my Pete Fountain transcriptions today , I re-encountered a rapid clarion B (long pipe) - D - F# - F, which I'd always done as forked F# to normal F, awkward as heck. And I tried the alternate F- much nicer. Now I just need to remember it (muscle memory) when it is useful.
 
 Stan in Orlando
 
 EWI 4000S with modifications
 
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    | Author: Tobin Date:   2017-10-23 04:30
 
 Or just learn to finger flip from F# to F.
 
 You have to solve the blip in the finger flip.  Either you get a moment of E, or a moment of G.  Identifying which one is present in your motion will tell you how to solve the problem.
 
 James
 
 Gnothi Seauton
 
 
 
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    | Author: kdk Date:   2017-10-23 05:11
 
 klim wrote:
 
 > I'm trying to work out the most efficient fingering for clarion
 > D# to F# to F to D on a Normandy 4 that has no LH D# key. The
 > RH D# key pretty much dictates that F# is played with RH middle
 > hole. The tricky part is F# (RH middle hole) to F (RH first
 > hole), which I can do but it seems like there should be a more
 > elegant solution. Any tips?
 >
 
 How fast is it? Is it a repeating pattern or one time only?
 
 Karl
 
 
 
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    | Author: klim Date:   2017-10-23 05:37
 
 16th notes, one time.kdk wrote:
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 > How fast is it? Is it a repeating pattern or one time only?
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 > Karl
 
 
 
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    | Author: klim Date:   2017-10-24 01:30
 
 Stan wrote:
 
 > Try fingering the F as LH x x x RH o x x with the LH F#/C# lever. That's a solid and in tune F natural for me. Then the 2nd D is as normal.
 
 Thanks, Stan. That fingering is quite stuffy and not so solid on my Normandy but I'll file it away for when I get my new  Ridenour Lyrique 576.
 
 
 
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    | Author: fskelley Date:   2017-10-24 05:29
 
 I expect it may depend on the clarinet or your whole setup including embouchure- not that I'm claiming anything special in any of that. And I have to say it doesn't feel like the normal F. And I guess the tone isn't quite as nice. But it plays in tune without effort and doesn't try to undertone or grunt, for me anyway. Today. LOL
 
 Stan in Orlando
 
 EWI 4000S with modifications
 
 
 
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