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 So it has to be the cane right?
Author: WhitePlainsDave 
Date:   2017-07-20 00:45

We'll leave Legere's out of this post as they're synthetics.

Presume all higher end cane reed manufactures cut their reeds to within a human hair's thickness tolerance of accuracy.

That may not be true, but it's Vandoren's claim, and they're the guys we seem to get frustrated with, justified or not.

So why do many people report a greater number of decent reeds in a box of Steuers, Arias, Leuthners, and Pilgerstofers than one of the Vandoren brands?

Is it we tend to hear more from the dissatisfied than the content?

Is it that more pros buy these non Vandoren brands and this correlates with greater expectation on their part that said reeds will need to be worked on?

Is it that some of the people who buy these other non-Vandoren brands are less likely to voice their opinions on this board, and thus the finding here have skew?


Is conformational bias at play?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias

That would suggest us endorsing the Vandoren brand we've paid for. Although it would also suggest us endorsing the others guy's product we paid for as well.

Is it anchoring? Our first pro model being Vandoren to which we assign standards that don't fully correlate with results?

Is it Apophenia: seeing patterns in random data because we wish to pick on the big guy (Vandoren?)

Is if Framing: i.e. following the social construct within our clarinet world that makes "Vandoren trashing" par for the course?

Is it the Halo effect and that we see the non Vandoren makers as the underdogs such that our like for their "maverickness" influences our like of their reeds?

Is it Self serving bias: we need to feel we have a choice against the big Vandoren monopsonist. Praising other brands feeds that...?

If it is reed making equipment..certainly Vandoren has access to some of the best?

Is it multifactorial, or a product of things not mentioned?

Is it illusionary?

Or is it............at least in part..........TRUE......that the other manufactures really do have a nack for picking more consistent and good cane for reed making?

We may never truly know.



Post Edited (2017-07-20 00:46)

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