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Author: Grneta
Date: 2017-05-09 05:35
Attachment: Selmer gold seal.jpg (93k)
Hi
I have an old Selmer Gold Seal Bb clarinet picture attached which is missing the lower joint key mechanism (Bb/A/G). I would appreciate if anyone can advise me where I can get this part, if at all.
Many thanks in advance.
Simon
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Author: Grneta
Date: 2017-05-09 07:31
Attachment: selmer2.jpg (129k)
Attachment: selmer3.jpg (63k)
Two more attachments, unfortunately I couldn't attach to the original post.
Post Edited (2017-05-09 07:33)
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2017-05-09 21:29
You have more problems there than just the missing keys. There is extensive cracking extending into the tone holes. Unless you fix that there's not much point in replacing the keywork. The cost of this work might exceed the value of the instrument.
Tony F.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-05-09 23:25
The most likely cause of the missing RH ring keys is the loose pillar - it's been pushed around beyond its fixed point, so this clarinet has a lot of structural problems that are in dire need of addressing.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Wes
Date: 2017-05-09 23:26
Check the e bay "parts" department in the "woodwind" area. Sometimes sellers have similar parts.
Long time repair persons often have keys from salvaged instruments on hand that they can modify to fit, but they would have to look at the instrument.
The cracks can be fixed and it could play well. Good luck!
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2017-05-10 00:26
These clarinets are intermediate models, the current equivalent being around the Buffet E12-E13 mark. They are pretty decent players, so definitely worth putting the time and effort in restoring. But resale value isn't going to be great, although they will take any player to Grade 8 if they're restored to full working order.
There were two main makers of these clarinets - Malerne and also Dolnet, both making clarinets for loads of companies. They were imported by Selmer London to fill the gap in their lineup with Selmer Paris clarinets at the top. The Centered Tone (early '50s-early '60s) and Series 9 (early '60s to late '70s) being the pro level clarinets at the time these were being made in the '50s and '60s.
Unlike Selmer Paris and Selmer USA, Selmer London didn't make woodwind instruments, but they imported student and intermediate level brass and woodwind instruments from France, Italy, Czechoslovakia (and possibly East Germany) and eventually China from the '50s through to the '70s. And from what I've seen judging by eBay, there was also a division of Selmer in Germany.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Kalashnikirby
Date: 2019-10-15 14:02
I’ve recently stumbled upon a pair of Gold Seals on a certain auction site. My question is: In this case, they’re advertised as Kohlerts, but isn’t that exactly where Selmer got them from? Are these the same instruments? And lastly, is a pair in need of an overhaul worth paying 500£ for?
Kohlerts, especially from Graslice, are what I’m currently after, but by now, their history/ production date is rather unclear. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Author: m1964
Date: 2019-10-17 19:14
Kalashnikirby wrote:
> I’ve recently stumbled upon a pair of Gold Seals on a certain
> auction site. My question is: In this case, they’re
> advertised as Kohlerts, but isn’t that exactly where Selmer
> got them from? Are these the same instruments? And lastly, is a
> pair in need of an overhaul worth paying 500£ for?
> Kohlerts, especially from Graslice, are what I’m currently
> after, but by now, their history/ production date is rather
> unclear. Any advice would be appreciated.
I am not sure, but I think that Amati clarinets produced in socialist era Czechoslovakia said "Kraslice".
Is it the case?
The Amati from 70-80s were student level instruments but I never saw an A Amati clarinet back then.
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Author: Kalashnikirby
Date: 2019-10-17 19:27
Funny that you mention it, I own an Amati A. Post-socialist Era, of course.
No, these must be "Graslitz" instruments, I accidentally corrupted the town's name there. Kohlerts on from before socialism, so I've heard, used to be fine instruments.
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