 The Clarinet BBoard
|
Author: mmatisoff
Date: 2016-08-04 21:01
Attachment: Leap from B flat to D natural.jpg (1936k)
Good afternoon. I'm working on Rose's Etude 11 from the Rose 30 Etudes. For the most part, I'm making good progress. I've listened to several recordings of the etude on the Internet. Most sound good, though nearly all have a problem with the jump from clarion Bb to and altiissimo D, E, and . I, in particular, am having problems finding the best fingering for these jumps. I've attached my current fingering (after trying all of Tom Ridenor's resonance keys). I've been practicing playing this measure VERY slowly. I'm still not happy with the tone and pitch. The Bb I'm using, while easier than other resonance keys, is extremely flat. Any thoughts or suggestions would be most welcom. Thanks. M
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Tobin
Date: 2016-08-04 21:07
For what it's worth: I don't ever use the D fingering you suggest. Instead I use the "regular" D fingering in this case...and in most cases. Additionally I don't use that Bb fingering either -- I use the "regular" Bb as well.
I'm interested in what others think. I also applaud your graphic -- incredibly clear, enabling quick discussion.
James
Gnothi Seauton
Post Edited (2016-08-04 21:09)
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: GBK
Date: 2016-08-04 21:22
You're over-thinking it. Use the standard Bb5 fingering and the standard D6 fingering.
A lesser alternative is to use the 1 and 1 fingering for Bb5, going to D6.
...GBK
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: Chris P
Date: 2016-08-04 21:58
I'd also go with long Bb to regular altissimo D (with speaker key and left thumb on) - you may not need to use the Ab/Eb key for the D on some clarinets:
Bb - xoo|xoo
D - oxx|xoo(Ab/Eb)
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2016-08-04 23:08
I agree there's no real reason to look for a different fingering for D - the "regular" one is fine. If this passage were faster, I'd probably use 1+1 Bb for the first one and almost certainly for the second (descending) one. At the tempo of this etude, I think you're equally well off using either that or the side Bb, depending on the intonation of your 1 + 1.
If this interval is causing trouble for you, you might check a couple of technical things besides fingerings. Make sure you aren't moving your mouth or toungue as you cross the break in either direction and keep the air stream steady. Try to finger with only the firmness needed to cover the tone holes - not squeezing the clarinet or clenching your fingers against the instrument.
When you practice this, I don't think *very slowly* will help much (apparently hasn't), because in context you probably don't move your fingers the same way. It isn't very fast even at tempo. You might try concentrating on the descending slur (from D to Bb) and keep everything but your fingers from changing. If you can get that smoothed out, remember what the D and Bb felt like (especially the D) and try to play the three notes - Bb-D-Bb - trying to reproduce the feeling on the first Bb that you remember from the previous exercise. Do this at a reasonable speed, not one so slow that you start changing the way your fingers move. Once you can do this with a stable embouchure and steady air, I think it may turn out not to have been a fingering problem in the first place.
Karl
|
|
Reply To Message
|
|
The Clarinet Pages
|
 |
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
.jpg){kind=small}
