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Author: Clarineteer
Date: 2016-03-31 04:27
Does anyone have any idea how Buffet achieves the ping / ring of the notes.
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Author: kdk
Date: 2016-03-31 04:54
Probably the people who play Buffets have something to do with it.
Karl
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Author: kdk
Date: 2016-03-31 04:56
I don't think I would say that only Buffet players achieve the "ring" you're talking about. It's a whole combination of player, instrument design, mouthpiece design and reed choice (or adjustment).
Karl
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Author: jdbassplayer
Date: 2016-03-31 05:41
They say that a buffet technicians add a tiny pinch of magic to every clarinet.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2016-03-31 06:17
Well it is easy to dismiss this or make fun of it or both but there is something a bit special about the sound of the R13.
What I (and most living clarinetists) have come to know as the "Buffet sound," may be somewhat attributable to the current poly-cylindrical design. Of course there is much more to than that. And if you ask them (or quite frankly other clarinet manufacturers) about specifics of bore, undercutting etc., they are cagey about them.
Let's just say that you can find Buffets that play well for you and they will have "that certain sound" that no other clarinet will have. Others, however, have their own mystique such as the Rossis.
Pick your poison. How they do it shouldn't matter as long as it works for you.
...................Paul Aviles
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Author: Clarineteer
Date: 2016-03-31 15:47
I have played many clarinets of various other professional brands such as Yamaha, Selmer and Leblanc and none have the ping / ring that the R13 has.
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Author: fernie51296
Date: 2016-03-31 19:01
It's funny because from all the clarinets I've tried, and I have tried a lot, I've always found the sound of an R13 quite dry. Not nearly as lively as people make it seem. I don't have anything against Buffet. Their Toscas are pretty nice, minus their intonation problems. But the R13 has always been pretty blah to me.
Fernando
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017
Date: 2016-03-31 23:20
Some players ping beautifully. The vast majority of players I've sat next to have totally lacked ping, ring, zing or swing. Could it be the instrument brand, or the company I keep?
On a more serious note, I think what you're asking about is the result of a very favorable acoustical impedance matching of the entire setup - instrument body, bell, barrel, mouthpiece, and the player's vocal cavity. On a good day I can achieve that sort of resonant condition on the bass clarinet, which manifests itself physically by the entire instrument vibrating (as felt in the fingers) over a range of notes - not just one or two individual notes. When that happens the sound seems to have more projection, though it's hard to tell by the player him/herself.
I recently changed necks on one of my bass clarinets, one on which I was having the devil of a time getting anything to sound good, but now with the new neck I can achieve that nice resonance using several of my mouthpieces and a decent reed. The previous neck, while it played in tune, was slightly conical in bore whereas the new one is completely cylindrical.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2016-03-31 23:55
Buffets do have a certain tonal quality about them, but they're not for me. I find them very focussed and restrictive as well as they won't let me do what older Selmer clarinets can do.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: JamesOrlandoGarcia
Date: 2016-03-31 23:59
Clarineteer- I could be wrong but didn't you say in a previous post somewhere that you sell buffets? Perhaps you should up load a video or two of you demonstrating this ping in the sound you are describing.
The heavy "ping" usually feels good in the testing room but translates into a thin bright sound on stage for those who are listening. I've always been fascinated how the Leblanc Opus/Concerto sounded a bit stiff up close but in the context of a concert hall, their sound was something special.
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2016-04-02 04:15
Higher octane gasoline will get rid of that pesky ping for you.
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
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Author: ned
Date: 2016-04-03 06:06
Silversorcerer, you have indeed chosen an appropriate nom-de-plume.
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