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 R13 wings on upper joint bridge key
Author: Clarineteer 
Date:   2016-03-06 01:30

Does the wings on the upper joint bridge key signify an R13 or did the Pre R13 also have these.

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 Re: R13 wings on upper joint bridge key
Author: kdk 
Date:   2016-03-06 03:51

I don't know the answer to this and I'm interested to see if someone eventually responds who does. But I *can* say, slightly non-sequitur, that Hans Moennig used to remove the wings from the R-13s he set up, so their absence doesn't mean that a Buffet *isn't* an R-13.



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 Re: R13 wings on upper joint bridge key
Author: jdbassplayer 
Date:   2016-03-06 04:18

An R13 will have wings wheres as pre-R13 will not.

-Jdbassplayer

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 Re: R13 wings on upper joint bridge key
Author: Joseph Brenner, Jr. 
Date:   2016-03-06 04:58

Moennig did likewise to my R-13's wings. I don't know whether he administered general anaesthesia! jbjr

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 Re: R13 wings on upper joint bridge key
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2016-03-06 07:24

When I had Moennig overhaul my R13 in around 1967, he offered to cut off the wings, but I declined. It seemed to me that the improvement in action would be infinitesimal, and saving the bridge mechanism from bending outweighed the theoretical advantage.

I've never spoken to anyone who noticed a difference when the wings were removed.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: R13 wings on upper joint bridge key
Author: A Brady 
Date:   2016-03-06 08:23

The late Jimmy Yan removed these "wings" from my R13 around 15 years ago. He told me that Stanley Drucker had had him remove them from his instrument, as it made it easier to properly align the bridge keys in low light situations, as you can do it by feel alone. Can't say I ever noticed any other difference playing wise.

AB

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 Re: R13 wings on upper joint bridge key
Author: Clarineteer 
Date:   2016-03-06 10:31

Thanks for your responses. The reason that I am asking is that I have a Buffet Bb clarinet serial number 4763X which was manufactured in late 1954 that has the wings and plays like an R13 but has the pointed trill guide and the single mounting of the G# and A keys on the upper joint. Seems to be an early R13 by the way that it plays and sounds. Any thoughts.

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