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Author: Jeroen
Date: 2016-02-10 15:02
I notice there are 2 versions of the 1010s: with or without metal tenon caps on upper and bottom joints.
It seems to me that older models have none and newer models do have them.
Also it seems to me that the clarinets with metal tenon caps sound a little brighter.
Someone knows more about this?
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Author: dubrosa22
Date: 2016-02-10 22:52
To be fair, I haven't played any other 1010s besides my early 1950s model (with metal tenon ferrules - factory original or not its impossible to know), but I can hardly believe there would be any noticeable tone difference attributable to the presence of metal tenon ferrules/caps.
Many more factors between the older 1010s and newer ones would be playing a bigger role in anything you can hear.
How many 1010s have you surveyed?
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2016-02-11 02:33
I've seen mostly '70s and '80s B&H 1010s - all of which have integral wooden tonehole chimneys (with loads of file marks in between them) and fitted with the Acton vent and all were without metal tipped tenons.
The lower level wooden bodied B&H clarinets had metal tipped tenons as standard (Imperial 926, Emperor, Edgware and the wooden Regents and "77" and all stencil/different named models, apart from the plastic bodied ones) but the tenons are always a poor fit in their respective sockets being too narrow and very liable to rocking. Made worse in the '60s when all the tenons had the same width tenon cork slot which meant the most important tenon of all - the middle tenon - didn't have an upper tenon ring to add stability to the assembled clarinet as the cork compressed and the joint constantly rocked. That's relatively easily cured by building up a tenon ring with superglue and wood dust and turning to make it a good fit in the middle socket so it doesn't rock even without the tenon cork fitted.
The only B&H clarinet I've ever seen with perfectly fitting tenons was a machined PVC bodied B&H Edgware - the tenons were spot on and the whole instrument was rock solid even without any tenon corks. They could easily have not bothered to fit tenon corks at all as the joints were that good a fit, but I don't think that would've been received too well by buyers. It definitely would eliminate the need for having tenon corks replaced as they're usually the most neglected part of any clarinet.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2016-02-11 02:34
This isn't unique to B&H 1010s same thing applies to to Imperial 926 and fairly sure some of the intermediate wood models e.g. Emperor.
I have several instruments with both options but can't be definite when it was introduced.
The reason was clearly to help prevent tenon damage and nothing else.
As in post above I would not expect any tonal effect from this or infinitely less than the normal deviation between several samples in a production run let alone from years apart..
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Author: Jeroen
Date: 2016-02-11 17:27
My set from the '70s are as Chris describes: without metal tipped tenons.
I think I have seen around 12 different 1010 clarinets and played about 6. It just got my attention. Other brands like Buffet are more strict in this:
RC without, and RC Prestige with metal tipped tenons. Seems really a fixed part of the instruments design.
Differences in sound could be caused by a lot of other factors indeed.
Jeroen
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Author: Roys_toys
Date: 2016-02-13 04:55
For what it's worth I have a late 1010 and Imperial 926 with metal topped tenons, and an early Imperial ( pre 926) without the metal capping.
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