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 Stravinsky Three Pieces
Author: maxopf 
Date:   2016-01-23 06:26

I have a note accuracy question. In the Stravinsky Three Pieces, 3rd movement, bar 19, should the Bs in the second half of the bar be B naturals or B flats? I've listened to recordings with both.

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 Re: Stravinsky Three Pieces
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2016-01-23 15:21

http://www.woodwind.org/Databases/Logs/1999/06/000452.txt

http://www.woodwind.org/Databases/Logs/1999/07/000178.txt

http://www.woodwind.org/Databases/Logs/1999/07/000207.txt

http://www.woodwind.org/Databases/Logs/1999/07/000245.txt

http://www.woodwind.org/Databases/Logs/1999/07/000287.txt

....with more about the Bb/Bnatural in:

http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=247512&t=246795



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 Re: Stravinsky Three Pieces
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2016-01-23 18:13

Salvo Gagni performs the 3 Pieces with the admirable spontaneity of a well-structured improvisation-yet faithful to the score--in a recorded live performance on YouTube.

Search I. Stravinsky Three Pieces for Clarinet--Salvo Gangi Clarinet on either Google or YouTube to listen.



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 Re: Stravinsky Three Pieces
Author: Tobin 
Date:   2016-01-24 18:36

Tony Pay returns!

Gnothi Seauton

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 Re: Stravinsky Three Pieces
Author: Philip Caron 
Date:   2016-01-24 19:30

I read all the links posted by Tony Pay. I have nothing worth adding to a discussion about the Stravinsky Three Pieces.

But I have to ask, where are all the posters that were so active on this bb back in 2007?

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 Re: Stravinsky Three Pieces
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2016-01-26 05:11

Tobin wrote:

>> Tony Pay returns! >>

Not really.

For several years, I tried to think that my job, as a regular contributor, was to CORRECT the rubbish that I knew was rubbish, here.

But now, I'll simply post what I want – and WHEN I want – quite irregularly.

See, the rubbish is endemic.

Whatever you do, you can't get rid of the ignorant, self-aggrandizing idiots.

Tony

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 Re: Stravinsky Three Pieces
Author: ned 
Date:   2016-02-13 04:13

As I said many years ago, and still maintain, this BB is more like a chat over the back fence to like-minded neighbours, rather than be like an electronic, peer reviewed journal.

If that means putting up with ''ignorant, self agrandising idiots'', then, so be it.

The responses that correspondents post in reply to ''self agrandising idiots'', would best be countered by facts alone, AND less inflammatory and insulting turns of phrase.



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 Re: Stravinsky Three Pieces
Author: Tony Pay 2017
Date:   2016-02-13 04:36

Ned wrote:

>> The responses that correspondents post in reply to ''self agrandising idiots'', would best be countered by facts alone, AND less inflammatory and insulting turns of phrase. >>

Indeed, and I have always tried to do so, at least to begin with.

It seems, though, that facts aren't sufficient for some people; and there is no adequate moderation to support those facts (as there would be in 'a peer reviewed journal').

So instead of responding with ridicule, as I have sometimes done previously, I will try to walk away.

But there is a loss: there is just that much more unchallenged crap here.

So in a way, I disagree with your 'best'. Read:

http://test.woodwind.org/Databases/lookup.php/Klarinet/2001/06/000034.txt

Tony



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 Re: Stravinsky Three Pieces
Author: Lelia Loban 2017
Date:   2016-02-13 18:07

When I saw the thread title, I clicked on it while thinking to myself, "Rats -- I wish Tony Pay still used this forum, because he's the one who . . . . Oh! Hey!" Welcome back, Tony, from one of these "ignorant, self aggrandizing idiots" who would like to learn more.

Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
To hear the audio, click on the "Scorch Plug-In" box above the score.

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 Re: Stravinsky Three Pieces
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2016-02-13 18:09

Welcome back Tony! Everything you write is interesting, and I read you with great care.

With each teacher I studied with, I took his (they were all men) requests and advice seriously, even if it didn't feel good.

I've learned the most about musicianship from listening to and imitating great musicians -- Dinu Lipatti, John McCormack, Dietrich Fischer-Diekau, Jascha Heifetz.

You're a star on the board.

Ken Shaw

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