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 Bundy Trademark?
Author: Matt74 
Date:   2016-01-13 07:15

Did all Bundy Bb clarinets have a trademark on the top joint and bell? If so, were any of them printed on so that they could come off?

Did they have serial numbers on both the top and bottom joint?

Thank you!

- Matthew Simington


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 Re: Bundy Trademark?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2016-01-13 14:41

Bundys/Bueschers from the late '60s to early '70s had a lick'n'stick type transfer logo stuck to the top joint, so they wore off leaving the top joint completely clean. Serial numbers on Bundys from the '80s were only stamped on the top joint if my memory serves me well - they ran into the 1000000s by then.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Bundy Trademark?
Author: Ed 
Date:   2016-01-13 17:23

I believe it was the 70's when Selmer announced in their Bandwagon magazine that they had produced the one millionth Bundy.

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 Re: Bundy Trademark?
Author: Ursa 
Date:   2016-01-14 00:00

My Bundy has the original Bundy logo embossed sticker onto the top joint, and the more modern Bundy logo inscribed into the bell surface. The serial number is on the upper joint only.

I thought it odd to have two different Bundy logos and suspected I had a bell from a newer Bundy, but I've seen many others on eBay from around the same vintage as mine that had both old and new logos. I'm happy to say that mine is a surprisingly good player.



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 Re: Bundy Trademark?
Author: Matt74 
Date:   2016-01-14 09:38

Thanks!

I've been on Ebay looking for horns to fix up. I'm seeing some strange things. A guy was selling a "Bundy", and it had a Bundy case, but no definite ID on the horn.

Is there any good ID site for Bundys and Vitos? I can kind of tell if a horn is real old, and some idea how used/abused it is, but I'd like to have a better idea what vintage and origin. The history of instrument makers is so covoluted. Most of the info I can find is very fragmentary. Besides knowing what is what, mostly I want to know if it is something I would give to a beginner or intermediate student.

- Matthew Simington


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 Re: Bundy Trademark?
Author: Ursa 
Date:   2016-01-14 19:08

A Vito will typically have the serial number on both upper and lower joints, and the model number above the upper joint serial number. The 71xx models are older than the 72xx models.

Bundys and most Vitos are fine for beginners and as marching instruments for more advanced players. As of this writing, an intermediate player will typically want a Vito V-40, Leblanc 7250, Leblanc Bliss, or Backun Alpha as their synthetic-bodied performance instrument.



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 Re: Bundy Trademark?
Author: Matt74 
Date:   2016-01-15 01:34

Are there any noticeable differences in the various models of Bundys and Vitos?

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 Re: Bundy Trademark?
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2016-01-15 01:39

Bundys usually have a large .590" bore and also a narrow .577" bore - the latter are marked "Bundy 577" on the top joint.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: Bundy Trademark?
Author: Ursa 
Date:   2016-01-15 10:52

Most synthetic-bodied Vitos have a .584" bore. Some of the V-40s have a smaller polycylindrical bore, and the 7242 has a .575" bore.

The 7214 has a machined bore, and I am not sure about the other .584-bore models. If they are moulded rather than machined, there could be a difference in how they play versus the 7214.

Very old Vitos, along with their sister model, the Normandy 14 "Reso-Tone", were made out of a different plastic than the ABS used more recently. There may be a difference in response and timbre versus the newer Vitos.



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