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Author: Jbosacki
Date: 2016-01-10 06:18
Hey guys, I wanted to see if anyone else had encountered this issue. I was recently relocated to Connecticut for work and I've recently gotten some new students and have been helping them with their All-state music. I started with this particular student two weeks (in which I just found out his audition is at the end of this month Woohoo!) and this week he pointed out to me a possibly mistake in the music and questioned me about it. For the record the version of the "Adagio and Tarantella"(Ernesto Cavallini) CT uses for their All-state is the Jean and David Hite edition published by Southern Music. While I'm familiar with the piece I've never studied it extensively.
So the question I have, is if you look on page 4. Measure 74 of the Tarantella section it goes from a High A to a Low "Eb". So without having my student invest in a full boehm clarinet to play that note is there any accepted edit of this? Right now I'm just having him play the Eb an octave up which ruins the jump that's pretty characteristic of the section, but is still better than having him play the low e, which sounds really out of place to me.
I've seen another version of this, in which has the same note. I've checked out a few videos on youtube. One of them I believe plays the E, another plays the octave and another just sort of...lips the E to the F... and sounds like they just faked it. So I've got no real majority there.
Anyways, any help would be appreciated. As I've only had two lessons with him and his Audition is in just over three weeks we've got a lot of work to do and I rather him not lose any more points on key signature mistakes.
Thanks guys!
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2016-01-10 08:54
I'm looking at three different editions (I have them because our PMEA district uses it every three years, too) - but not the Hite - and there isn't anything like what you've described at the 74th bar of the Tarantella in any of them, so I can't tell where exactly you mean. There aren't any low E flats in any of the three, though, so I suspect yours has a misprint (maybe an accidental has been left out).
There is a spot at the 20th bar of the Tarantella that leaps from A5 (first leger line above the staff) to low E3 (below the staff), but it's clearly marked in each edition with a natural sign (the key signature has two flats).
Can you attach a scan of the line where this occurs? I'm curious to see what it is.
Karl
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Author: Jbosacki
Date: 2016-01-10 11:35
I've seen 3 copies of the Southern Music one and all three of them were labeled like this, but that's the only edition I have currently.
And yes. I phrased that badly. The 74th bar of the Piece not just the Tarantella. But if it's supposed to be an E and you have it as an E, I'll play it over again. I just think it sounded too out of place to be correct but again I'm not a composer
-Jeff
Post Edited (2016-01-10 11:41)
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2016-01-10 18:09
Yes, the bar I described is the 74th of the piece (counting the Adagio), One of the editions I have is the Ricordi, which, although it looks like a modern engraving, is probably the original edition.
Karl
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Author: rmk54
Date: 2016-01-10 21:16
The E-flat is a wrong note.
As you can see, I also teach in CT, and all my students are playing E natural.
Every other edition I own has E natural, and I have played it as E natural for over 40 years as a professional.
That being said, the adjudicators they use for All-State auditions are often not, shall we say, very sophisticated, so who knows how they will interpret the note. Chances are they will eliminate that section to avoid any controversy, just as they will most likely eliminate the cadenza, for the same reason.
Bit of advice: be very careful using YouTube as a resource.
Post Edited (2016-01-10 21:20)
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2016-01-11 04:53
The odd thing is, now that I've done a little more looking for it, I've found my copy of the Hite/Southern edition and it, too, shows E-natural. I don't know if your copies are of an earlier printing or what else could explain the difference, but I bought mine a little over a year ago, so chances are that students with newly bought copies may nott run into the problem.
Karl
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Author: Jbosacki
Date: 2016-01-14 11:29
Thanks for all your help.
I ordered two copies of it and both of them were purchased about a week ago. So maybe it's not the older one. It's the newer one with the mistake? Either or I appreciate it!
Post Edited (2016-01-14 11:29)
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Author: Jbosacki
Date: 2016-01-14 11:35
My student was told specifically by his band director that All-State does not audition any part of the Cadenza. Hopefully that is in fact correct information, as it doesn't specify that in writing anywhere I've seen.
Youtube can be a great reference if you watch legitimate recordings of pieces. It just takes a little more research to make sure what you're watching is a quality recording!
-Jeff
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2016-01-15 08:24
If you want to see true absurdity, check your Piano Part and compare it to the Clarinet part.
The version that Pennsylvania uses (a very common one, Waln/Kjos) has two sets of 32nd runs in the Piano part that the Clarinet plays (mm 104 +108, yet rests in the actual printed Clarinet part.
So the pianist would think "hmm, guess this player can't play them??"
The low E is correct, the Eb is absurd.
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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