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Author: Eric V
Date: 2015-11-08 02:24
Interesting, I was just listening to the local classical radio station and they played a piece from "World of Warcraft" or similar title. Not bad.
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Author: D Dow
Date: 2015-11-08 23:26
I doubt this is the case...however..the video game high end market is not going to drive a much more expensive market as classical symphonic orchestra.
Utililze them yes..but i cannot see people going to classical concerts in 200 years to listen to creepy video game sound tracks.
David Dow
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Author: SonicManEXE
Date: 2015-11-09 01:39
Are they saving symphony orchestras? Probably not, but they are definitely helping.
I have to disagree, David. These scores are not "creepy." They have emotion pouring out of all sides. Sometimes, bleeps and bloops are what are necessary for a video game. Other times, like in the case of The Legend of Zelda (as well as most Nintendo games now, even Mario), orchestral music is used quite effectively. More and more gamers are becoming attracted to live, orchestral music. Like a movie, they add so much depth. As a matter of fact, a lot of music being made for games nowadays are better than the games themselves.
I went to this concert in December 2012 and it was fantastic. Of course, some of the excitement was watching some of my favorite tunes come to life in front of me, but it was music being made. Just because it's video game music doesn't make it any less legitimate than "real" music.
Jared
Ft. Lauderdale & Tampa, FL
Post Edited (2015-11-09 01:40)
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Author: Exiawolf
Date: 2015-11-09 03:44
For those doubting the emotion that can be behind some of the music, here you go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFgGhYu2RxQ
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2015-11-09 04:01
The music is probably no more nor less musically meaningful as movie music or, to go farther, maybe even some incidental stage music of earlier eras. That many of the musicians in the big orchestras probably chafe at playing the game music (or movie themes) can be dismissed easily enough as "they'll have to get used to it."
But the question I want to see answered is whether this kid of programming can generate enough income to subsidize the classical repertoire and new symphonic works that are the traditional meat and potatoes of the symphony orchestra. I don't know anything about the expense involved, but I imagine producing these multi-media events is quite costly. The animations are a whole additional layer of expense above paying the composer(s), arrangers, engravers and everyone else normally involved in a new musical production. Then the various licensing rights that attach to the video content itself must add another layer.
I guess this can be profitable, or orchestras in L.A. and Philadelphia wouldn't - couldn't - do them. But I would really like to read somewhere how all this works and how much benefit the orchestra ends up gaining after everything is totaled. The point can't be to simply replace the standard repertoire, because ultimately this video music, like more and more film scores and even live theater pit scores, will be digitally produced - orchestras of live musicians won't be needed - aren't really needed now. If the end result of programming this kind of repertoire isn't to provide a more secure funding level for more "serious" music (old and new), then the point of doing it at all is questionable.
Karl
Karl
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2015-11-09 08:18
Eric V, I'm also in San Diego County. Which local classical station are you referring to? I wasn't aware we still had one. Maybe the one from Tijuana at 104.something? This sounds like the kind of thing they would program. Sometimes they play some "interesting" things like the completely over-the-top arrangement of "Hey Jude" for orchestra and choir that I had to turn off the other day. Or maybe you can pick up KUSC from LA, being closer to the coast? I can't get it here in Poway.
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Author: maxopf
Date: 2015-11-09 08:25
I wasn't aware of a local station either. The one from Tijuana sounds most likely, they program stuff like that sometimes. I usually hear more classical stuff on KUSC.
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Author: gwie
Date: 2015-11-09 10:31
I love Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven, but I'd gladly pay to hear this anytime as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wUjwubKX10&index=12&list=PLF5AD7F6557569A9C
Post Edited (2015-11-09 10:32)
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Author: Eric V
Date: 2015-11-10 04:45
Hi Nellsonic, yes it was the Tijuana station. Agreed they are a mixed bag, some of their stuff is muzak and some quite repetitive. We can barely get KUSC here in Encinitas.
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2015-11-10 12:17
Once upon a yesteryear San Diego had KFSD as a fine classical station. I remember learning some interesting stuff from musicologist Karl Haas on his "Adventures in Good Music" program during the summers. It was on weekdays midday, so no chance to hear it on school days.
The music the station planned to play during all hours could be found in Ovation Magazine, which was a national music magazine that was customized for local markets. When I was in high school I used to love going through the listings and highlighting what pieces I most wanted to hear that month. My, how things have changed - both for the better and worse.
Sorry to have hijacked the thread!
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2015-11-10 21:47
I've seen the show about the video's "saving" the symphony. I find that rather strange. When I played in the Baltimore Symphony, retired three years ago, we did a couple of these each year, usually one during the winter and one during the summer season. Although it was true we would fill the house, once or twice, unlike a standard concert, three and pops four performances, very few of those people ever came back to the "other concerts" just because they liked the videos. It did bring in box office receipts but I doubt enough to be considered "saving"the orchestra. They have to pay royalties and other expenses for the rights to play them. It's pretty much the same when we did a concert with a big name pop star, we would pack the house and probably never see those peope at the other concerts. And how many video concerts can an orchestra each season? We also did big movie titles with the orchestra playing the score live. The problem with orchestra attendance today is mostly called the greying of the audiences and everything they can do to bring in the young crowd is helpful. Youth concerts, pops, movies, videos, specials. It all helps to "save" the orchestras.
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2015-11-12 10:16
It's funny how the classical audiences have been greying for several decades now at least. I imagine that at least half the audience that went to concerts when I was a kid have now passed on, yet they seem to have been replaced by the more recently grey. Perhaps when the rigors involved in going to club shows and big festivals become too much, some percentage of popular music fans "retire" to classical concert halls. I've always felt at home in any music venue. Some of my favorite nights begin with an orchestra concert and end with a rock band at a club. I seem to be the only one though, at least around here!
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