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 Cat Tonguing fast articulation
Author: seabreeze 
Date:   2015-09-22 01:00

Peter Tanseki has a demonstration video on YouTube of "Cat Tonguing," a technique he attributes to Illian Iliev. Search for Cat Tongue Method of Double and Triple Tonguing on Clarinet to see the video.

Is this really a new and different technique or just a new name for the standard tu-ku and tu-tu-ku or tu-ku-tu multi-tongue articulation? To my ears, Tanseki's multiple tonguing is more even and less tonally distorting than such articulation usually sounds on clarinet. Is that because it is actually an improved approach or is he just better at this sort of thing than most clarinetists?

If this is actually a better way to articulate fast, exactly what is he doing that is not usually done in double and triple tonguing to make it better? Metaphorically speaking, how does a "cat" tongue, as opposed to, say, a lizard, a fork-tongued snake, or a single-tongued human?

On another note, Tanseki's altissimo register tones sound like the fine harmonics they should be, balanced in timbre and dynamics, rather than the uncontrolled, poorly-voiced screeches we often hear up there.



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 Re: Cat Tonguing fast articulation
Author: Johan H Nilsson 
Date:   2015-09-22 02:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ScuYZ__3o

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 Re: Cat Tonguing fast articulation
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2015-09-22 07:10

It may be passing the tongue across the reed/mouthpiece on the up swing and passing again going down (strumming the tip with the tongue going BOTH directions). John Yeh uses this technique.







..............Paul Aviles



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 Re: Cat Tonguing fast articulation
Author: Dibbs 
Date:   2015-09-22 14:08

Paul Aviles wrote:

> It may be passing the tongue across the reed/mouthpiece on the
> up swing and passing again going down (strumming the tip with
> the tongue going BOTH directions). John Yeh uses this
> technique.
>

It sounds like that to me. Romanian tarogato players use this technique all the time. I've been practicing it for a month or so. I can go very fast on a single note but haven't got it synced with my fingers at all yet so I can only go very slowly up and down scales.

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 Re: Cat Tonguing fast articulation
Author: KenJarczyk 
Date:   2015-09-22 20:52

It IS pretty interesting.

Ken Jarczyk
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 Re: Cat Tonguing fast articulation
Author: johng 2017
Date:   2015-09-22 21:35

I wonder if this is the same technique David Pino described in his "The Clarinet and Clarinet Playing". He called it on-the-reed multiple tonguing and involves moving the tongue up past the reed tip on the up-stroke and then back again on the down-stroke.

John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com

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 Re: Cat Tonguing fast articulation
Author: Bill G 
Date:   2015-09-23 05:34

I used this strumming technique many years ago {but not nearly so well), because I couldn't double tongue. I called it "duddle" tonguing.

Bill Gamble

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 Re: Cat Tonguing fast articulation
Author: Dibbs 
Date:   2015-09-23 12:26

Bill G wrote:

> I used this strumming technique many years ago {but not nearly
> so well), because I couldn't double tongue. I called it
> "duddle" tonguing.
>
> Bill Gamble

Nice. At the world tarogato congress, the English speakers christened it "flipple" tonguing because the tongue flips up and down.

It is the same technique David Pino describes.

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 Re: Cat Tonguing fast articulation
Author: Johan H Nilsson 
Date:   2015-09-24 02:19

Here's the cat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-JUo_2eyuU

The slo-mo reveals it is single-tonguing.

I tried the flip tonguing technique but I could not make it faster than the single tonguing, and I didn't feel I made progress. So I went the taka way.

The flip tonguing motion is not used in the language, which is why I believe I can't do it rapidly.

I also heard about some sideway motion.

Tongue motion is a complex matter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue_rolling

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 Re: Cat Tonguing fast articulation
Author: Robert Moody 
Date:   2015-09-24 17:18

Dibbs "It is the same technique David Pino describes."

That is what came to mind for me. The description with the video is strained and vague for someone wanting to learn how to do it.

Robert Moody
http://www.musix4me.com
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