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 playing B-flat parts on E-flat and vice versa?
Author: clarinetplayer21 
Date:   2015-08-05 23:35

Despite the eefer being a (3rd?) higher is it ok to play the b-flat parts on e-flat and vice versa without transposing or is it needed? i would like to play the effer in our schools concert / marching band but since there isnt much music written for the e flat its kinda hard to do. since i have seen on scores sometimes the E-flat plays the exact same part as the B-flat so is transposing really needed?

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 Re: playing B-flat parts on E-flat and vice versa?
Author: davyd 
Date:   2015-08-05 23:42

Yes, transposing is needed. Parts for the two instruments are not interchangeable. To play a Bb part on the eefer, read down a perfect fourth (3rd space C becomes 2nd line G, and so forth), adding one sharp to, or dropping one flat from, the key signature. It's probably better that you write out the part rather than try to read it at sight.

For marching band, you could get away with using an alto sax part, but for concert band you need to do it properly.

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 Re: playing B-flat parts on E-flat and vice versa?
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2015-08-06 00:20

Solo moments for Eb clarinet are written with the specific "whiny" sound of that instrument in mind (ie the strained sounds that Strauss wants in Til Eulenspiegel). If you are missing that instrument in your ensemble and there is a critical solo that does not go too high (another aspect that may get in the way), you can transpose on another instrument all you want but it won't sound like an Eb clarinet.





.............Paul Aviles



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 Re: playing B-flat parts on E-flat and vice versa?
Author: EaubeauHorn 
Date:   2015-08-06 00:34

If you can learn to read Eb as a different clef rather than reading by fingering, you'll be able to play any part on any instrument that has the range to do it.

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 Re: playing B-flat parts on E-flat and vice versa?
Author: BflatNH 
Date:   2015-08-06 03:56

Occasionally Eb parts show up in [orchestral] works (e.g. Strauss' Alpine) Bb parts in case there is no Eb player. Beware -the part may not be transposed (as the Strauss was not).

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 Re: playing B-flat parts on E-flat and vice versa?
Author: rmk54 
Date:   2015-08-06 16:22

Solo moments for Eb clarinet are written with the specific "whiny" sound of that instrument in mind (ie the strained sounds that Strauss wants in Til Eulenspiegel).

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Actually, Strauss wrote Till for the Clarinet in D. I wouldn't characterize the sound of that instrument as "whiny" or strained.

(Nor would I for the E-flat, but that's a separate discussion).

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 Re: playing B-flat parts on E-flat and vice versa?
Author: ClarinetRobt 
Date:   2015-08-06 18:36

I agree with rmk54 & BflatNH. If you're playing Copland's "El Salon", you'll need an effer. Those solos are suppose to sounds like a drunk Mexican...Bb is way too sobering.

~Robt L Schwebel
Mthpc: Behn Vintage
Lig: Ishimori, Behn Delrin
Reed: Legere French Cut 3.75/4, Behn Brio 4
Horns: Uebel Superior (Bb,A), Ridenour Lyrique, Buffet R13 (Eb)

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 Re: playing B-flat parts on E-flat and vice versa?
Author: Silversorcerer 
Date:   2015-08-06 18:49

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 Re: playing B-flat parts on E-flat and vice versa?
Author: Ebclarinet1 
Date:   2015-08-07 19:13

I found that the Eefer parts are more often with the flutes and composers like Sousa used the Eefer to beef up the sound of the flutes. In high school I got good at sight transposing the flute parts on the Eefer. Start with a few marches as the flutes generally have the high melody line and just go from there. It will be a good mental exercise if nothing else.

The Eefer has a different personality than a Beefer. It is definitely more in your face. It sort of adds spice or pepper to a clarinet section as it's brighter. It does a great job with wild Klezmer-like parts too. Given the choice I would always play Eefer or Beefer. Often times more fun parts!

Eefer guy

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