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 Re: Mozart Concerto Puzzling Note changes in Recent Performances
Author: Dibbs 
Date:   2015-06-24 14:17

Paul Aviles wrote:

> Played on the piano, the "five of" occurs a half beat before
> the third beat and not before.
>
>
>
>
> What could I be missing?
>
>

Well the A chord has stopped sounding by the start of beat 2. But yes, it's hard to argue that the C# chord is in effect from the start of beat 2 when the clarinet has an E natural (concert) unless Mozart had been listening to Jimi Hendrix.


> Just spent some more time listening to other clarinet players
> play this including Neidich. I cannot agree with the rationale
> used by Neidich. He moves harmonically too soon. Maybe he
> didn't look at the score or play this on the piano.
>
>
> Seriously though the urtext melodic fragment may have existed
> in Mozart's mind with an entirely different rhythmic under
> pinning. We just don't have enough information to say this is
> "the most correct version."
>

No but we do know that Mozart wrote a F natural at an early stage in it's development and at a later time some anonymous hack at a publishing house wrote an F#.
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