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 Hello (and goodbye) Florian Popa Fake Ligature
Author: Mirko996 
Date:   2015-06-06 16:14
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Hi, today it's arrived the ligature i bought time ago in china store and it's like a florian ligature. the first sad thing that wasn't incompatible for Pomarico jazz double star and one star... i tried however to play with this ligature and it's fall on the floor while i was playing... i wanted to modify that for take compatible with my mounthpieces but now i cannot... you think i can fix the crack?

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 Re: Hello (and goodbye) Florian Popa Fake Ligature
Author: johng 2017
Date:   2015-06-06 21:14

The crack looks like it goes length-wise down the side, so any attempt to fix the crack would fail since the repair would most likely not be able to withstand the stress of putting the reed on securely to the mouthpiece. I hope you did not spend much money on the fake! So if you want to try a Florian Popa ligature, buy a real one...if you are playing jazz you might even like one of the metal ones and that would not crack and fall on the floor while you are playing. (I am still trying to understand just how that happened!)

John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com

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 Re: Hello (and goodbye) Florian Popa Fake Ligature
Author: Mirko996 
Date:   2015-06-07 20:17

Anyway, is totaly destroied... i spent (if you are still interessed) 22€, few.

to explain what happened tell you only one thing : to save my skin or my clarinet and I dropped tying hoping you could save . smontavo while I supported the bottom in the table while the top in my hand but was falling , then I made a move to take it fast and ligation was not putting well . we say that flew together reed ... right now is totally unusable because it is divided into three parts and say that was unlucky ... but now I see a little if or buy it and take more care or make me do wood because it was still pretty good, in short , staccato were good and also the altissimo notes

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 Re: Hello (and goodbye) Florian Popa Fake Ligature
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2015-06-07 21:52

I can't honestly see how this kind of wooden ligature isn't going to crack as any wooden tube that isn't supported with some form of band to counteract the pressure exerted from within when placed onto the mouthpiece and pushed down to hold the reed securely is going to end up in tears.

This is the reason why clarinet sockets have metal bands on them as a socket without any additional form of strengthening is likely to crack due to the pressure from the tenon cork when assembled, no matter how thick the socket wall may be.

You can have this repaired by banding the ligature with metal or carbon fibre bands as that will add the strength a plain wooden tube just hasn't got.

If people had a full understanding of the properties of the materials they're using, then these problems won't happen.

In my opinion, a machined grenadilla tube is far from ideal for this purpose. You're far better having the tubular ligature made from laminated grenadilla built up of several layers from a long strip of grenadilla veneer with the grain running radially as that will at least have the necessary tensile strength as opposed from machining it from a solid billet.

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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