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 Re: Morrie Backun and the MoBa barrel
Author: ClaireAnnette 
Date:   2015-05-30 22:02

I am not opposed to students having the best for the student. However, the MAIN quality of the MOBA is the low F tuning vent. And for the pro levels the tuning in general. I can say this from authority being trained as a dentist. A child at 10 (not 13) does not have the dental or skeletal or muscular development that is present with some maturity. No matter how talented or skilled, one cannot change human development and anatomy. My point was that for this level of physical development, I personally, feel this was a bit much. I had to wait until being an adult and earn money myself, even though I could have used much sooner. Also, I got my first R13 A at age 13 and I had to raise my own $450 at the time as my parents could not afford. At age 10, I had boosey and Hawkes. That did until age 16 when I saved and bought Buffet Bb at age 16. I competed with those with better, and still did well. At age 10,the only ensembles were those at school-and trust me, a low F vent would have not helped that group to play in better in tune. So, what is demand or NEED for that degree of tuning. Parents may provide whatever they choose for the child, but is it the CHILD that is asking for this, or the parent living vicariously wanting that for their child? Would a 10 year old even KNOW physics to know 440 vs. 442?? I suppose, I was not provided a car at 16 either. And when I got one, age 24, used, again my own money. I did not go out and crash it and appreciated it. Did not get a new car until age 35! When that other car was about gone! And a very responsible 10 year old could care for clarinet, but how about the classmates? I know it was all I could do not to get my Boosey and Hawkes damaged by OTHERS!!! My point, what is the advantage from kid's view, NOT parents, for getting a clarinet designed for advanced player performing with ensembles that do demand intonation? Oh, it is nice this child could be provided the best. I am sure they have best of all that can be provided. But, like I say, from realistic point of view, I still believe this a bit of an over purchase for a 10 year old, I would not say same for a serious 13 year old. Working with lots of children, I still think there is benefit in having a child work towards goals. Maybe, "If you stick with it and work hard, I will get you this other model later. But now, I want you to prove to ME how dedicated YOU are to this endeavor". Also, I do not know if a great clarinet will make one a better player? Maybe can get farther faster? Might even show up errors more? On mine, I found I could accomplish what I had been trained and practiced to do on my others because it did what it is supposed to do. BUT, I had to be trained and know how to do these first. A 10 year old, no matter when they started or how talented, would not have physical developmental maturity to completely be able to voice for example. Also, they do not even have all their key permanent teeth, probably even tooth gaps. Anyway, I hope those comments as to physical maturity make sense? And the comments about group situations available to a 10 year old, not even in middle school, as far as tuning demands. I will bet the kid's contemporaries are not even on R13 and perhaps on an E11 if the band director is lucky. So, what other instruments is the kid tuning too? So what is wrong with a Protege or R13 to STILL be an advantage, give child chance to develop? OTHER than parent had means to buy more and the end result being the poor kid like myself, who MIGHT have more drive and interest, to be very frustrated because I could not afford such? Is the kid with the MOBA going to sound better all things being equal? Yes. So poor kid like me might just give up all hope. This is to satisfy the adult need to have greatest material assets IMO. Unless some unbiased instructor actually recommended this as best for child. Maybe child could be that talented. But, just remembering circumstances as a 10 year old player, I think child at this age could do just as well and become a fine clarinetist with a R13 or Protege. Or similar level. Unless this child is currently auditioning for a professional job in which case intonation is important. We try to push children to be next big thing. When they reach age 35 and above, well the early head start just does not seem to matter. And, all that said, let child do many things at age 10, learn where their skills and interest lies. THEIRS, not the parents. But, in this case, I suppose child will always be provided best equipment no matter what. Then, they just have no concept of how the majority of us humans must sacrifice and make financial choices throughout life. Must be nice. But ALL of my opinions are just that, my own, based on my experience in my life. This is this family's/child's life, and if that is how they see it best, be my guest. (Note that the little singer Jackie said in an interview at about age 14 that she could not read music. If one is providing the best, shouldn't that also include the best preparation for life or a career? Including the hard learning part? Perfect example. Sure, talent, making career in music at young age, great! But will this person be prepared to function as a 35 year old? Can she enter a college prepared?) Now, having said this, I will now "reveal" I was myself "advanced" student and started college early-EVEN not having top equipment or money. And I had to work study and pay off loans. When it all comes out in the wash, as an adult, it did not put me further ahead in the long run. GUESS WHAT? Those that had family money to set them up in life still "got ahead" as far as moving faster on financial track. So, I guess, if a family can always do this, good for them. Hope those of you out in the world like myself, if not great means but plenty of talent and skills, without provided advantages, can feel proud that they made it on their own! i would hate to be the kid sitting next to her in school band playing on best plastic clarinet my family could rent, thinking I was not as talented because my instrument could not show my ability to the best...

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