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Author: Mirko996
Date: 2015-05-22 20:29
Basson Vs Reformed Boehm Clarinet
I Laugh but is very incredible the precision, the accuracy and the brilliance in the transition between high note and low note.
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2015-05-22 21:09
Playing is very assured, especially without the music, and lovely sound - but - I just can't watch them. I know it's probably an age and generation thing but the constant movement and posturing irritates me intensly. I was brought up watching great players who could express every thing needed just through playing the music.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-05-23 00:02
WOW, I find this absolutely stunning! They played this all from memory (for starters) and emphasized the musical pairings, etc. with their posture and body movements.
Of course I've always been of the mind that what you do with your sound is MOST important. So wether you sit there like a lump, or dance as you play, I want the SOUND to be uppermost in the performance. Many performances from Europe tend to be freer moving, so I've gotten used to seeing (and enjoying) performers who experience their music in three dimensions (reference great orchestras of Europe such as Berlin and Vienna where it the group looks like one single living organism).
I have also witnessed orchestras sit like a lump and SOUND like it. I get very grumpy when this happens. So whatever it takes......MAKE MUSIC !!!!
..............Paul Aviles
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Author: davyd
Date: 2015-05-23 01:55
I wonder if maybe they recorded the work under studio conditions, and are miming (not actually playing) in the video?
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Author: James S
Date: 2015-05-23 03:51
Well I can finally say I've seen a reform boehm Rossi in action
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-05-23 04:26
I've seen several videos of this type. I believe they are actually, or could have actually recorded this in action. Look at the "Mnozil Brass" and other such ensembles. Creating performance art out of classical music is becoming pretty common.
.............Paul Aviles
Post Edited (2015-05-23 14:49)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-05-23 15:27
One criticism to level is that despite the casual-formal look adopted by the other gentlemen, our horn player insists on a tie, vest .........and a pocket watch?!!!?
:-)
Seriously though, it is obvious looking closely at some crucial sections that they are "lip syncing" this. I would imagine that they do perform this way because they are so well practiced at it. Also, despite the wonderful look of the space, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't SOUND that way.
If YOUTUBE works the same for the rest of you, I highly recommend listening to the Ligeti "Six Bagatelles" that follow (same schtick, different art gallery).
This is an extraordinary group. Some of the best woodwind playing I've ever heard (and I say this as a fan of the Neatherland's Wind Ensemble from "back-in-the-day").
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-05-23 18:41
I am on my third viewing of the Nielsen (I think I may be getting a little obsessed).
I must confess something to all of you. My ONLY exposure to Nielsen for many years was the Clarinet Concerto. I never liked it. It is very angry and twisted. I in fact had avoided listening to this quintet because I expected it to sound much more like the concerto. This music is quite wonderful with only one moment where the clarinet comes off as 'battling' the bassoon. It may very well be possible that this work and the the amazing rendition that this is could open a door to finally gaining some sense of appreciation for the clarinet concerto......though I make no promises.
...............Paul Aviles
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2015-05-23 22:25
Nielsen knew each player of the original quintet personally and wrote the music to match the temperament of each individual player.
He then started writing a concerto for each to further reflect that temperament though sadly only completed the flute and clarinet ones before his death.
I hear remakable similarities in the clarinet writing of both pieces.
The quintet is available in an historic recording by the original players but the clarinetist (name escapes me at moment Ove ...?) unfortunately never left a recorded version of the quintet.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2015-05-24 06:08
The original recording of the Nielsen Quintet has Aage Oxenvad playing clarinet. The Nielsen Concerto was written for him, and his playing is amazing. It's available on Clarinet Classics http://www.clarinetclassics.com/shop/carl-nielsen-the-historic-recordings/ and should be in everyone's collection.
A bassoonist friend told me that in the bassoon world, it's common knowledge that there was a personality conflict between Oxenvad and the bassoonist Knud Lassen. Oxenvad had a short fuse, and Lassen loved to rib him. A variation in the final movement is a satire of this, with the annoying bassoon setting off clarinet screaming fits.
Ken Shaw
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Author: nellsonic
Date: 2015-05-24 06:28
Paul, I agree about the Nielsen Concerto. I've never cared for it, although I'm certainly open to that changing at some point. Maybe learning it would help me learn to love it! I do enjoy just about everything else I've heard or played by him including this wonderful Quintet and several of the Symphonies. His early student level Fantasy Piece for clarinet and piano is also nice for what it is, although not that interesting as he had not yet developed his own voice.
The first time I saw this kind of staging of work was at a concert by the contemporary music group eighth blackbird. They did all of Pierrot Lunaire from memory with some fairly complex choreography. It was exquisite and most impressive!
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2015-05-24 21:59
This is fantastic. The Ibert on their channel is also a great pleasure to watch.
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Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
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Author: Fishamble
Date: 2015-05-25 02:33
"Well I can finally say I've seen a reform boehm Rossi in action"
I'm not sure that it is a reform boehm. The regular-boehm Rossis have an extra vent between the F/C and E/B tone holes, tied to the F/C key. The playing in the video is fantastic either way.
I love this group, and have been plundering their Youtube channel for months as my own quintet advances through the repertoire.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-05-25 16:24
I had some spare time on my hands and did a "freeze frame" of 9:04 and it is clear that this is a "standard Boehm" Rossi.
For those of you NOT in Howard Klug's studio, he recommends the "French bore" version for the "Bb" and the "American Bore" version for the "A." I have yet to try one........but it's on the list. Most of the players I've heard live using Rossi have this almost other-worldly resonance in the chalumeau.
.............Paul Aviles
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