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Author: knotty
Date: 2015-05-21 01:03
About Valentino pads, how do you adjust these to eliminate leaks?
Thanks
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Author: richard smith
Date: 2015-05-21 01:55
I found it difficult, and switched to cork. They can be filed to fit tight by making several small adjustments over a period of several days. Well worth the time and effort.
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2015-05-21 03:15
Cork pads should have their surface sanded flat and ultra smooth and then floated in to the cups to level. I adjust the thickness and bevel a shallow cone on the underside to assist this process.
Properly fitted they should seal perfectly from minute 1 day 1.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-05-21 03:18
I've only used Valentino Greenback pads (the white ones) which were either self adhesive where they were held by the glue oozing from the sides and sticking to the sides of the pad cups or installed and floated on hot glue. They could also be thinned down by removing the required layers from the back of the pad.
The instruction cards that came with these pads suggest they're seated by clamping the pad cups down to the toneholes and heating them (and all the surrounding area so it seems) with a hair dryer.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2015-05-21 16:53
These are meant to be used in emergency situations.
By the way, Yamaha has been installing Valentino pads without glue or adhesive. They get most of them to work, but I often have to replace a few. They size the pad so that it is snug in the cup.
Steve Ocone
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Author: knotty
Date: 2015-05-21 18:06
Thanks again all! I'll just stay with the regular hot glue type pad.
knotty
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Author: BartHx
Date: 2015-05-21 18:33
Steve: Are they able to make the pad cups with enough precision that they will seat the pads well with no adjustments? Maybe I'm just stuck in "the old ways", but that does not seem to me to be a long lasting solution once the instrument gets exposed to the real world.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-05-21 18:39
They didn't mix well with Buffet B10s back in the day, but those were the Greenback ones.
I would like to know what the most recent Valentinos are like as I'm considering using them, If they're being used with success in Backun clarinets then I'd like to try them out as while I like cork pads, they can be noisy.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2015-05-21 23:30
Yamaha manufacturing can be very precise. But not all the pads seal well. I think the pads the same as Greenbacks or at least very similar.
Steve Ocone
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Author: Ed
Date: 2015-05-22 02:58
I can't speak for the self adhesive ones, although I have used them in emergency situations to get a student's instrument playing. I have had Valentinos in my clarinet for quite some time. They may be the Greenback. I am not sure how they were installed, but they seal great and have lasted a long time with no maintenance or issues.
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Author: BartHx
Date: 2015-05-22 20:26
I use green backs and hot melt glue for instruments I am working over to donate to local public schools. They are relatively easy to install with good seals and seem to last well in that application.
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