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Author: Mirko996
Date: 2015-05-04 02:12
Hi, today i use my clarinet patricola and while I removed the rag to clean it got stuck and I really struggled to take it off ... when removing it after I noticed that had formed this line that I fear is the beginning of a crack ... you think so ?
It is severe , or you can heal completely making the clarinet as before ?
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Author: Mirko996
Date: 2015-05-04 02:24
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I put the photo where you could see better ... though it seems is particularly noticeable especially live ... for now are still under warranty but I would not want it to get worse again ... if not stop it just use .. . I do not want you to ruin that point , in short , are the few months that I use and I'm terrified that we can spoil a lot ... I do not want , I think you understand me .
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-05-04 03:41
It looks to me like an open line of grain which looks normal to me given its location where there's considerable contact between you and the surface which will dull and wear the finish to reveal the vessels.
I think this is too strong an area for a crack to suddenly happen as they normally happen where the joint is weaker - such as a tenon or by a tonehole, pillar hole or other hole or slot cut into the joint. If you consider the thickness of the joint walls is around 8-9mm on most clarinets, that's a considerably thick area for an isolated crack to happen.
Also, lower joint cracks that happen mid way along the joint are fairly rare as they tend to happen at either end - either at the socket end if the socket ring is loose or the clarinet has integral wooden socket rings turned from the wood (so effectively not having any socket rings at all) or at the tenon end if the tenon has had some kind of internal force pushing outwards from the bore which will split any tenon not fitted with metal tenon rings.
But if it wasn't there before, then I'd have someone check it to be sure. If it is a crack, then such a small crack in the wood like this is easily filled with superglue and then sanded and polished to blend in with the surrounding joint surface.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
Post Edited (2015-05-04 03:42)
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Author: j8649
Date: 2015-05-04 04:38
This looks like a grain line to me rather than a crack. It was probably there all along, and you just noticed it now. It is in a rather odd location to be a crack. You could pay attention to the area before you play your instrument and after. Sometimes cracks will get bigger as you play the clarinet and it warms up and will then get less noticeable once the instrument cools off. It also could be just a surface scratch. But I think most likely is just and open grain line. I hope this helps.
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Author: JHowell
Date: 2015-05-08 15:31
Not a crack. You can see light reflecting off the bottom. Real cracks are sharp black.
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Author: Mirko996
Date: 2015-05-10 00:21
I'm gonna to Patricola Yesterday, but first i was gone in Pomarico to buy new Mounthpiece... In my opinion, if you want know Clerici, the man who built pomarico mounthpiece is very nice person, i'm fell in pleasure when he speaks about old history when he knew a lot of clarinettist, we speak about them like Giora Feidman, Buddy Defranco, Tony Scott [...]
Before return in home i'm passed to Patricola for see the problem and wasn't crack but, who says a lot of you, it's a littel grain and there's no problem fortunatly...
The rest i have just a little problem for the cork in the bottom joint and they fixed that... but it's okay...
Thanks for interessament, you can understand me, i was very scaried, i have gots for my clarinet because it's very important to me.
Thanks thanks thanks bros
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2015-05-10 01:53
Shame I didn't take a photo of a cracked Buffet R13 I saw today which as used but wasn't all that old - it had split from the top tenon shoulder down the back, past the speaker tube and right down to under the speaker key touchpiece. Chances are it'll split right to the thumb tube before long. At least it cracked in the 'right' place - had it been in the other usual spots, then the whole instrument would've been rendered unplayable if it went through a tonehole.
The other most common sites for cracks to happen on the top joints are from the tenon shoulder right down the front and down to (and sometimes beyond) the throat A tonehole, also down the side of the top joint running down from the tenon shoulder to or through the trill toneholes and the trill key guide.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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