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 Ridenour Libertas and Lyrique review
Author: MartyMagnini 
Date:   2015-04-26 18:50

**Disclaimer** I am not affiliated with Ridenour Clarinet Products in any way. I have been a satisfied customer, and Tom sent me a couple of clarinets to try and give him some feedback about how I think they would fit in with school music programs. I am not compensated in any way, and won’t even receive a discount on these instruments should I decide to keep them for myself or my school.**

I received a Libertas and a Lyrique for evaluation on Monday. The first thing I noticed about the Libertas is that the keywork is much more solid and “robust” than on my previous Lyrique (about 3 years old). The key layout takes a bit of getting used to – just like switching between any two different makes of clarinets – but I settled in easily and enjoyed the feel of the keys much more than on my current Lyrique. I have to admit that the only thing I didn’t love about my old Lyrique was the keywork, and that issue has been thoroughly addressed in both of the new models.

The sound is dark, rich and full. I’m a believer that 99% of the sound comes from the player / concept, but it’s nice to have a clarinet that will do what you want it to, and I found the Libertas to be flexible and able to produce different colors when needed. I like the sound very much. I warmed up for a bit and then put it on a tuner – here is where it gets interesting. When I was playing and watching the tuner, I thought some of the throat tones were off – which didn’t make sense to me, given what I’d heard about the tuning characteristics of the instrument. It was then that I realized I was favoring and voicing the throat tones the way I would on my current instrument – (a Yamaha CS Custom set up by Brannen with a MOBA barrel and bell) that I like very much. I had to concentrate in order to just play the pitches down the exact center of where they wanted to fall (I’m used to voicing up quite a bit on F and G), but when I did, the tuning was spot on. Up and down the instrument, it’s probably the most accurately tuned instrument I’ve ever played, and in my day I’ve played regularly for years on an R13, an R13 Prestige, and the Yamaha, using my current Lyrique mostly as my demo instrument at school and in lessons. The twelfths were surprisingly in tune up and down the horn on both instruments, and the low E and F were easy to play in tune, without sacrificing the B and C.

For those who’ve never played any of the recent crop of Ridenour instruments, the most striking thing about them is the evenness between registers. These things make the altissimo play just like the rest of the horn, and you just don’t have to work up there – it just plays. You just use the same relaxed embouchure from the lowest note up into the stratosphere, and the instrument just responds – it’s really amazing, and for me, it’s hands down the most impressive thing about Tom’s instruments. You just don’t have to work hard to play them – they just play. I had several of my band students try the Ridenour clarinets, and they were blown away by how easily they were able to play in the altissimo register, even those students who would normally struggle getting those notes out.

I would highly recommend either of these instruments for anyone in the market for a professional quality clarinet. My personal preference is for the Libertas, but some might prefer the Lyrique. Both models are worth a look or a trial, even if you’ve tried one of Tom’s clarinets before – these new models are an improvement, and a joy to play.



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 Re: Ridenour Libertas and Lyrique review
Author: richard smith 
Date:   2015-04-26 22:41

Thanks. I have 4 TR147s which I purchased, used, some years ago. They are of accurate intonation and even response . Top value too.

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 Re: Ridenour Libertas and Lyrique review
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2015-04-27 00:55

G1 (Wooden) is also really good, but not made anymore. There are just a couple out there, but awesome instruments.

Competes with my R-13 Prestige, is that good.

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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 Re: Ridenour Libertas and Lyrique review
Author: nellsonic 
Date:   2015-04-27 01:31

I bought a Libertas in Bb and a Lyrique in A a couple of months ago. They are not perfect, and needed a few tweaks, but they are really great instruments in the ways that count most. I love to play them for many of the same reasons Marty stated. It did take me a couple of weeks to adjust, as they are very different from my Buffets, but once I did I was really happy with them and will certainly be recommending them over many of the step up instruments my students have purchased in the past. They are a great value and a real asset in my music making.

Anders

Post Edited (2015-04-27 11:47)

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 Re: Ridenour Libertas and Lyrique review
Author: Merlin_Williams 
Date:   2015-04-27 16:06

I'm using a new Ridenour Lyrique on my current cruise gig. It's seen everything from -40 bone dry Canadian winter to over 100F and ridiculous humidity in Myanmar and India so far without any sort of issues.

It's also got amazing evenness of tone and fantastic intonation throughout the range.

Amazing horn!

Jupiter Canada Artist/Clinician
Stratford Shakespeare Festival musician
Woodwind Doubling Channel Creator on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/c/WoodwindDoubling

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 Re: Ridenour Libertas and Lyrique review
Author: WhitePlainsDave 
Date:   2015-04-27 19:20

I am a huge, but financially independent of Ridenour fan: Tom, Ted, and their wares. With complete satirical approach I submit the following:

What is this stuff about Ridenour clarinets playing in tune?! I will have none of this. Clarinets must be designed to be difficult to play, unpredictable from instrument to instrument, unpredictable on the same instrument from day to day and with weather, and most important, unpredictable within instrument with respect to musical temperament.

And just in case, by accident, a reliable instrument is made, heaven help us, reeds should be designed to fail as a backup. Reed manufacturer could learn a lot from the baseball card makers of my youth. Just like you stick only one 1969 Mets pitcher Tom Seaver card in 30,000 in the NY market, high end reed makers need to test their reeds to insure that at maxiumum, one decent reed in every 2 boxes is found. Balance must be struck not between left and right sides of a reed, but far more importantly, with giving players just enough hope to come back and buy more boxes of reeds, and furnishing as few decent reeds in those boxes as possible to maximize the number of boxes purchased just short of brand discouragement. Reed manufacturers need to sit down with Psychologists and Vegas gaming experts to determine this profit maximizing optimal good reed/bad reed ratio!

If we start accepting hard rubber acoustically solid clarinets, which don’t further deplete Grenadilla stocks, and don’t change with weather, and don’t crack, can you imagine what would happen!!...solid instruments at lower prices!!! (say it isn’t so). People everywhere could not only afford to purchase their clarinet, but (heaven no), they’ll be inclined to stay with it.

The bulletin board will be flooded with threads about how happy people are playing clarinet (bah humbug) and tons of happy emoticons. We'll start agreeing with each other on bboard forums and (no!!!) the instrument will become (don't say it) MORE POPULAR!! Impossible to get clarinet gigs will become even more impossible to come by as everyone will be a great player. Julian Bliss and your 6 year old will play with the same virtuosity!

I say keep clarinet playing expensive frustrating and impossible! Who is with me on trying to make it even harder for people to play than oboe??!! What will all our hard word stand for if technology makes everyone good???!! [wink]

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 Re: Ridenour Libertas and Lyrique review
Author: fskelley 
Date:   2015-04-27 19:43

Love it, Dave.

In all seriousness (I can be serious for a moment, maybe) I really think many believe that all the extra effort expended to squeeze good in tune sound out of an instrument that fights you all the way, must, it surely MUST, gain you something subtle unattainable without that work. And it is my opinion (as an outsider not really a member of the lifetime pro clarinetists club) that that is complete and utter hogwash.

Stan in Orlando

EWI 4000S with modifications

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 Re: Ridenour Libertas and Lyrique review
Author: TomS 
Date:   2015-04-28 01:34

I have played a Lyrique Libertas for over a year and before that a Lyrique Speranza (no longer produced, but similar acoustics to 576BC, but an "entry level" model).

Both play well in tune. The Libertas has more resistance, tone center and personality. The Speranza is freer blowing and darker. I am going to order his 576BC as soon as finances permit ...

As a former R13 player (they have some usefull playing features), I had, at first, intonation issues, which was mostly due to my humoring each note ... once I shifted playing paradigms, all was well.

Someday, Tom Ridenour is gonna retire, so get your clarinet now! I wonder if he has a protege that will continue his work, or if his designs will be sold and produced by someone else? Surely arrangements have been made?

Cool thing about hard rubber clarinets is that they last a very long time. By the time yours wears out, your great grand kids can get one made of out Martian hardwoods.

Tom

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