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Author: Zeldalaina
Date: 2015-03-05 07:24
I have a Vandoran 5RVLyre mouthpiece and I use a 3&1/2 reed, yet when I put the reed on correctly time and time again, I have difficulty blowing thru it. It is all airy, and I have never ever had that happen with any other mouthpieces that I have used. Does this mouthpiece need a softer reed? And I asked this other question on a different forum, but I am not sure I submitted the question correctly. This evening in a box of mouthpieces I own, I came across a Buffet Crampon C Crown mouthpiece with the 2 rings towards the bottom, and one towards the top of the mouthpiece.I do not know or remember where I got it. But I have never played it because I heard that they are pretty lousy. The logical thing would be to try it but I just came across it at approx. 9:00pm and I live in an apartment and out of courtesy I do not play at night-- neighbors everywhere. Is it true that this Buffet Crown has little merit? I would love some feedback about these mouthpieces if possible. Oh, and I play with a wood Jupiter clarinet which is the top of their line, a little over a grand, but it is considered a "step up" clarinet, which is very much the case since I came off a Vito.Thanks.
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Author: vintschevski
Date: 2015-03-05 07:36
For what it is worth: a 3.5 reed didn't work well for me on a 5RV Lyre, I found that a 3 suited it better. But I'm sure there will be others for whom the 3.5 is fine.
I don't know anything about the Buffet mouthpiece. Since you have one, the best idea certainly is to try it out when you have a chance - but you knew that, anyway!
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2015-03-05 07:41
So I assume you use something regularly OTHER than the 5RV Lyre. Since this a smaller opening mouthpiece (and an industry standard) and there isn't much out there that is considerably smaller that you could be using, I will further assume that the 5RV Lyre may have been refaced (or has some problem like a warped table or chipped rail).
...........Paul Aviles
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2015-03-05 07:57
The 5RV Lyre has a medium length lay and a slightly open tip. A 3 or 3-12 reed should work well.
Have you tried a different reed? Have you tried letting the reed a tiny bit higher?
Look at the bottom of the reed. If there's an impression where the reed meets the window, you need to sand that flat.
Finally, look at the mouthpiece rails and tip. Are there any gouges? Look carefully at the corners, which can easily get bumped and damaged so that the reed doesn't seal.
Ken Shaw
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2015-03-05 19:20
Hi Lisa:
We can talk about mouthpieces that many players use and like (and yet other players hate) as a sign of "merit" until the end of time. And its certainly a valid question for you to ask, as finding a good mouthpiece often starts with, if nothing else, the avoidance of things that most players consider not much better than trash.
But that said, in answer to your question, "Is it true that this Buffet Crown has little merit?"
if you'll allow me a little comedic license, "I don't know, what do you think?"
Seriously: my point is to try it. If you love it, you love it, and in which case the label on its exterior becomes nothing more than a way for you to identify it from your other mouthpieces. And the "price will be right" too.
Disclaimer: I predominately play a Vandoren M15.
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Author: Ursa
Date: 2015-03-05 19:26
Regarding the Buffet C Crown, I played one for a few months as my principal mouthpiece and found that it was a very nice sounding mouthpiece with accurate tuning when used on my clarinets, but crippled with a facing that was very, very fussy about which reeds it would play with.
I'd suggest at least trying it out--if you like what you hear, you could always send it out for a reface. To give it a fair trial, I strongly suggest using reeds that have never been played on any other mouthpiece. My C Crown was absolutely unplayable with reeds that were used on other mouthpieces.
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Author: TomS
Date: 2015-03-06 03:05
The 5RV-lyre is not a really "free blowing" mouthpiece, IMO. The facing curve and internal acoustics give it a little more resistance than many other MPs. It takes a softer reed than my M13s or M30-lyres. I just purchased my fifth (in over 30 years!) 5RV-lyre the other day ... picked it out from six at the local store.
I like an easy setup, so I use a #3.5 Vandoren V12 or a 3.0 blue box. The Legere Classic Cut #3, for me, is a marriage made in heaven, paired with the 5RV-lyre!
You may have one that has a problem, such as a warped facing or damaged rails ...
See if you can borrow another one, they should be quite common.
Tom
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