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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2015-01-19 01:37
Let me see if I have this correct.
Vandoren V.12 reeds (notice the dot) are named as such because the difference between the tip (.10mm) and heel width (3.15mm) is 3.05mm or .1200787"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandoren....
While the new V21 reeds have nothing to do with differences between tip and heel width because....
(wait for it....)
...there's no dot in "V21?"
(I fear someone is going to answer, "exactly, now you get it!")
Does anyone know where the "21" in "V21" comes from. Are they the opposite of V.12 reeds given that the digits are inverted?
Isn't that a little bit like asking what the opposite of "paper clip" is?
Post Edited (2015-01-19 01:42)
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Author: Exiawolf
Date: 2015-01-19 04:58
There named V21 because they are "The reed of the 21st century"
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Author: Wisco99
Date: 2015-01-20 03:43
Dave, I believe the V12 uses the same type of cane they use for sax reeds. It is different than the regular Vandoren reeds. It also has a different profile. As for the 12 and 21, it is probably founded in ancient numerology. Just kidding. Those century numbers can get you in trouble. In the late 90's the Powell flute company came out with a newly designed flute, the 2100 made of sterling silver. It was for the 21st century. Then people wanted one made of gold and sterling, so it became the 3100 which I bought. See, I am an entire century ahead of everyone else. But then they changed both to the Handmade Conservatory available in sterling or gold and sterling, only their top line is called the Handmade. It gets pretty confusing when you start naming things after centuries.
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Author: fskelley
Date: 2015-01-20 04:45
And we could probably start a related argument over when a new century begins. As in Jan 1, 2001 not 2000, 2101 not 2100 etc. Fortunately no clarinets stopped working on 1/1/2000 (Y2K), at least not that I'm aware of.
The Thomas Organ Company made a "2001" model sometime around 1970. Purists may sniff, but I thought Thomas made some innovative and nice instruments in the late 1960's, later stuff was nothing to brag about. Occasionally I'll see a 1968'ish "Celebrity" in nice shape on that auction site for anywhere from $100 to $300, would have been $5000 new = $40000 adjusted for inflation. And I'm tempted, but space to put it is an issue, plus it's probably 1000 miles away. The listings usually begin, "This was my Grandpa's organ...". A lot easier to buy an old clarinet.
Stan in Orlando
EWI 4000S with modifications
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Author: Liquorice
Date: 2015-01-20 17:48
V12 stands for "Vie: Douze Minutes", meaning that the projected playing life of the reeds will be 12 minutes. The new reeds have the rather optimistic estimated life-span of 21 minutes.
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2015-01-20 18:09
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Yeah..I guess there are certainly jokes to be found in the choices instrument [accessory] manufacturers make when using numbers to label products.
(Tongue-in-cheek)
But just so were clear, and on the topic of braging about our gear, please note, as evidenced by the attached picture, my ligature "goes to eleven."
Beat that! ![[wink]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie3.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o
Post Edited (2015-01-20 18:15)
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