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Author: Rhgsf
Date: 2015-01-09 13:37
Hi everyone,
I was very surprised to hear a YouTube video in which Nicola Baldeyrou plays a crhomatic scale from highest G sharp to double high C very easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PGtd6GYzag
Around 0:28 and 1:16
I want to know that fingering. I guess Gis and A are normal fingering. But I am not sure from A sharp to C. I wathced the video many times but I cannot.
Does anyone know that fingerings?
Thank you
Rhgsf
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Author: WhitePlainsDave
Date: 2015-01-09 20:11
Hi Rhgsf:
I tried slowing down the video with one of a bunch of mechansims and websites for doing so (e.g. holding down the space bar and playing the video at http://www.youtubeslow.com/watch?v=2PGtd6GYzag respectively) without being able to identify, like you, the precise fingerings.
Perhaps someone else has a better eye, knows of specific chromatic fingerings for the upper altimiso, and/or knows Mr. Baldeyrou well enough (brilliant and well known player that he is) to say what he does here. It's even possible that he may have a different set of notes for chromatic descent.
In the meantime, and as you probably appreciate, as only somewhat advanced clarinetists concern themselves with upper altissimo play, even with Mr. Baldeyrou's fingering in hand (no pun intended) he may be doing things with other aspects of his play, especially embouchure based or breath control, that we might not be able to easily reproduce.
I saw a video from Vandoren where Mr. Beldeyrou was trying out the Masters Series mouthpieces with enthusiasm, but I cannot speak to what mouthpiece he plays, let alone reproducing his artistry even with his actual mouthpiece available for others to use.
As a point of departure for you, and also something you probably realize, at this high altitude play, fingerings that facilitate chromatic play, unlike in the lower registers, have to often take a back seat to what sounds, if any, the player can produce, with respect to pitch, color, and shape, as it regards such fingerings.
Here is, in my opinion, a strong fingering chart
http://www.wfg.woodwind.org/clarinet/cl_alt_4.html that offers lots of alternatives and commentary. I suspect in here lies a cross between what fingerings you can speak, and what fingerings facilitate rapid upward movement through these notes.
Unless you have a specific work requiring this toolset, please allow me to encourage you to work on this only as a very small portion of your overall practice time.
Post Edited (2015-01-09 20:12)
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Author: pewd
Date: 2015-01-09 20:11
The New Extended Working Range for Clarinet
by Kalmen Opperman
publisher: Carl Fischer
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: BobW
Date: 2015-01-10 14:30
This is what I use
F TR OXX C# OOO Eb
F# TR OXX C#D# OOO Eb
G TR OXO C#D# OOO Eb
G# TR OOO C#D# OOO Eb
A TR OXX OOO
A# TR XXX C# XXX C
B TR XXO C# XXO C
C TR A XOO C# XOO C
from Kalmen Opperman's Book
F TR OXX C# OOO Eb
F# TR OXO OOO Eb
G TR OXO D# OOO Eb
G# TR OOO D# OOO Eb
A TR OXX OOO Eb
A# TR Ab OXX C# OOO Eb or R OXO OOO Eb
B TR XXO XXO Eb
C TR Ab XOO XOO Eb
Post Edited (2015-01-10 17:13)
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Author: Rhgsf
Date: 2015-01-12 11:00
Thank you very much for your opinions and answers.
Of course I know that Mr. Baldeyrou is super clarinetist. I don't think I can play chromatic scale with his fingering. Because I am non-professional, it is too different from my breath control and embouchure.
I will try your suggested fingerings later. And I will report the fingerings which I can play easily with my buffet and technique.
Thank you again.
Rhgsf
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Author: Rhgsf
Date: 2015-01-17 05:25
Hi, everyone
I carefully watched Mr. Baldeyrou's video with slow motion and refered other alternative fingering charts including your suggested.
Then I finally revealed the almost fingerings which he uses,
G# TR OXX F# XOO
A TR OXX F# OOO
A# TR Ab OXX F# OOO
B ???
C A TR OXX F# XOO
About B, maybe he adds A key of LH or first ring of RH with A# fingering. But I can not comfirm which that is, because I cannot hit both fingerings in my poor technicque.
Does anybody have opinions about this?
Rhgsf
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Author: maxopf
Date: 2015-01-17 06:05
I just watched through it very carefully and I think I've figured it out.
The fingerings you listed for G#, A, A# and C are correct; B is the same as C but without the RH 1st finger.
So it's:
G#: TR OXX F# XOO
A: TR OXX F# OOO
A#: TR Ab OXX F# OOO
B: A TR OXX F# OOO
C: A TR OXX F# XOO
Edit: Hmmm... C works but B doesn't. I'll have to take another look at it.
Post Edited (2015-01-17 07:03)
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