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 Re: Help me play my Lyrique Libertas (troubleshoot me please!)
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2014-11-23 03:33

Ok, GOOD!!!

We are onto something. The 'standard' Masters Series does tune "high" as most mouthpieces did "back in the day." Back then (and I mean the 70s) most early student clarinet players played so sharp it would literally hurt your teeth to listen to them! It was vital back then to learn how to use upper lip and cheek muscles (and think more wrapping around the mouthpiece like a rubber band). This is MOST critical for the notes that are affected negatively by biting such as open "G" up to the throat "Bb." Once you get to the fourth space "C," pitch is pretty stable until you get up the the first ledger "B" and higher. Then you may have to use more 'energy' in the embouchure to bring things in line again.


The "E" and "F" just below the open "G" (second line) are usually flat but in the case of the Ridenour perhaps not. I just spoke with two representatives of the Uebel company and their horns are smooth in pitch down there as well. They said Tom Ridenour actually liked the tuning of their horns.


This is my LONG way of getting at the answer......YES, you may have an easier time with one of the lower pitched Vandorens (13 Series). HOWEVER, the tuning issues in the long run are more dicey for these mouthpieces because they make the twelfths a bit TOO wide (sorry, there just are no easy fixes.....only different compromises).







...............Paul Aviles


P.S. The pitch test with just the mouthpiece (or with barrel) was valid 'back-in-the-day' however, if you 'crow' on just a Vandoren standard pitch mouthpiece and then 'crow' on a Vandoren 13 Series, you'll hear quite a pitch difference (which one is correct????).



Post Edited (2014-11-23 03:37)

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