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 Re: Help me play my Lyrique Libertas (troubleshoot me please!)
Author: faltpihl 2017
Date:   2014-11-21 22:14

Update!


The hissing is most certainly coming from pads .

The following were the notes where I noticed the hissing:

Low B (when using the key between the two holes)
Low C
Low C# (not so much, if I dont push the key really hard the hiss is very loud)
D# RH trill (not too much)
E left hand (absolutely worst hiss)
Bb throat
F# RH trill (not so much)


I am guessing that raising all of these pads would cure the issue (I am likely to be wrong here, I have no experience with repair or customization of clarinets).

I am not sure how this will affect the tuning though.. Any thoughts?



Now to the tuning issue:

I tried my old yamaha 450, my yamaha CSG and the libertas for tuning.

The tendencies are the same on all three when it comes to tuning.
I tried with my yamaha 4C mouthpiece, with similar tendencies.


The following results were obtained in todays tests with the Libertas:

G + G spot on (I start tuning with the throat G as per your instructions).


Lowest register: (if no comment then it was more or less spot on)

low F -5 to -10 C
low G -5 C

left hand chal. register:

D -5 C
E -15 to -20 C
F -15 to -20 C

Clarion register:

B -10 C
C -20 C


I won't bother writing down exactly how the other two clarinets performed, if nobody think its interesting.


I am feeling kind of happy that the Libertas and the CSG are quite similar in tuning, with perhaps a slight advantage to the Libertas.

Since I have so large tuning anomalies I don't think I can use my own results as a true base to judge the tuning of the clarinets.

If there is a way to minimize the buzz from the pads on the Libertas, I feel most comfortable with it. The sound is also more pleasant in my ears, but I will keep on comparing them to be sure.


As to my tuning issues, which I would really love to solve:


The yamaha 4C is a more closed mouthpiece (from my understanding).

Is it any good to go mouthpiece hunting to try solving these tuning issues?
Or have I tried two mouthpieces of "the opposite extremes" in some sense, and if none of them are good, the only thing left to work on is my technique?`


Should I try any specific techniques to see if I can improve my tuning on the most flat notes? (The lefthand thumb F/C are really bad. Sometimes I see them as low as -30 C).



I am very thankful for all of your help, this community is starting to become one of my favorites fast!

Have a great weekend all.

Regards
Peter

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