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Author: jjensen6823
Date: 2014-11-08 01:32
I recently came across a clarinet and I cannot tell what it is. It is a wooden clarinet, the bell is not black, but wood grain. There are no markings I can see on the bell. The body is black and the arrangement of keys looks unusual. The seller tells me it's an "albrecht" instument, which is a different fingering system that was used in europe in the past? The only markings I can find on the body are the words "Made in France" (I think) in extremely small letters right at the top of the upper half of the body. I cannot find any other identifying markings on the clarinet. The case has a plaque on the front that reads "Selmer" on a rectangular brass plaque. Above that are letters that look to be decals, about 1" high. I'm not sure they are original, but they read "Warwood".
I can't tell what it is. Everything I read about selmer instruments refers to the serial number, but doesn't say where to find it. However, it looks like all selmer instruments have a logo on the bell? Any help would be appreciated.
PS. I tried to attach two pictures, but it wouldn't let me. i guess they are too big.
Post Edited (2014-11-08 01:42)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-11-08 02:41
Resize the photos (reduce them to 75% or 50%) and try again.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: chris moffatt
Date: 2014-11-08 06:15
Wasn't Albrecht a medieval bishop? In any case I think he meant "Albert" system. You could well have something interesting here. Is there no serial number anywhere? I'd love to see those photos.
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Author: jjensen6823
Date: 2014-11-10 09:42
I'm giving the pictures another shot. And no, I looked and I looked, and I couldn't find a serial number. If there was one, where would it be?
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Author: jjensen6823
Date: 2014-11-10 09:49
I tried again to upload a photo. This time it says:
You cannot attach anything to this message. Either you are not the author of the message or the maximum number of attachments have been attached.
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Author: jjensen6823
Date: 2014-11-10 17:42
Okay, I found a picture online of a clarinet that matches the one I am trying to identify perfectly, except I don't see any of the emblems on it--although in looking closely, I see a couple places where there are faint marks in the wood, almost like there was once something there. Can those emblems be scrubbed off somehow? Anyway, the clarinet looks exactly like the 4th picture on this page--the first full length picture of an assembled clarinet. In terms of the placement of the hole and the size, shape and placement of the metal keys, they look to be exactly the same.
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/clsnSelmerParis.htm#early
And the plate on the case looks like this:
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/galleryclar/SelmerParis/6567/p05.jpg
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2014-11-10 19:42
That's a simple/Albert system clarinet with an additional side Eb/Bb key and rings for LH fingers 1 and 2 for a better tuned lower register open F# (saves having to open the side F/C key to bring the F# up to pitch).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: jjensen6823
Date: 2014-11-10 21:05
Is it a particularly good instrument? Do you have any idea what it might be worth?
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Author: jjensen6823
Date: 2014-11-10 21:11
The outside of the case looked just like this...
http://www.clarinetperfection.com/galleryclar/SelmerParis/6567/p05.jpg
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Author: jjensen6823
Date: 2014-11-13 23:05
Can anyone help me out by telling me whether or not this is a good instrument, and give me some idea what it might be worth? Right now, it's sitting in a used furniture and miscellaneous "antique" shop for $75, and I am wondering if it should be "rescued." I am not a clarinet player--I am a trombonist. But I've been saving to have my 1967 Old Recording trombone restored, and if I can get this clarinet to someone who will appreciate it (assuming its worth saving) and also make some money towards restoring my 'bone, that would be great.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2014-11-13 23:36
With no maker's mark and no serial number, $75 is about what it's worth, even with restoration.
Ken Shaw
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