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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-09-12 21:21
I know this is an "either/or" question but I'd stay away from the student line (really inexpensive) Selmers and Buffets. If you can find a student line Yamaha or Leblanc Vito for a similar price, I'd jump on that first.
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: maylene1852
Date: 2014-09-12 21:39
I do have a choice between vito 7212 or 7214. I don't know difference of those either but someone told me selmer was better
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2014-09-12 22:11
For beginning level instruments the Yamahas and the Leblancs are actually preferable to Selmer (IMO) because the right hand tone holes are slightly smaller, and if the student is a smaller kid the lower notes will be easier to get out.
The only difference that I can find on the website (actually the Conn-Selmer website which I guess is who distributes them) is that the 7212 has no ring at the bottom of the bell, and the 7214 has one.
Either way, they'd be the ones I'd recommend as a private teacher (16 years) who's taught several kids who couldn't cover the holes on a Selmer.
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Author: Roxann
Date: 2014-09-12 22:22
When I dug my Bundy out of the closet a few years ago, after not having played it since high school, I noticed there was a chunk out of the lip of the bell. I must have dropped it way-back-when. So, if it's a choice between a ring around the bell or not, I'd go with a ring. That would have prevented the damage I did to my instrument.
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Author: winthropguy
Date: 2014-09-12 22:31
Just curious: are these the choices given to you by your child's band director or private teacher?
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Author: winthropguy
Date: 2014-09-12 23:05
Okay, a few thoughts...
1. If your child is starting with a band program, check with the band director before making any purchase. The director may have a specific model s/he wants the students to start on. It may not be the model a clarinet teacher would necessarily recommend, but if your child will be with this director for several years and the director is adamant about a specific brand and/or model, it might be worth it to follow those wishes.
2. If your child is starting with a private instructor first, work with the teacher. S/he can help select an instrument that will work well for your child (Katrina makes an excellent point that smaller kids have trouble with some models because of finger/hand size).
3. You might want to check with your local music shops before buying via eBay. Not only will you get face-to-face interaction, but your child will be able to hold different models and work with a sales person to find a good fit AND the horn will work or be fixed, not something you can always guarantee from online purchases.
Generally speaking, the Selmer and Vito models are both decent beginner horns - though as you can tell, opinions will vary from person to person based on their experiences. It's worth investing in a decent mouthpiece and some private lessons to make sure your child receives a good foundation for success, too.
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Author: cyclopathic
Date: 2014-09-13 00:09
here is some info on Vitos: http://www.clarinetpages.net/plastic-clarinets/vito
> Nope there just ones i found on eBay in my price range that seem decent
they will still need to be looked over and adjusted or have some pads replaced. It would be a torture for your 10yo try to learn on leaky instrument. It is surprising how much difference "almost sealing" and "sealing" make in terms of sound
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Author: as9934
Date: 2014-09-13 01:56
The backun alpha which by all accounts is listed on that one auction site for $399. You should look into them they are pretty nice. I also really like my Yamaha 250ad and still play it for outdoor perfermances.
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Wind Ensemble
Buffet E11 clarinet , Vandoren Masters CL6 13 series mouthpiece w/ Pewter M/O Ligature, Vandoren V12 3.5
Yamaha 200ad clarinet, Vandoren B45 mouthpiece, Rovner ligature
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Author: pewd
Date: 2014-09-13 03:24
What Tommy said.
I've stated that here on this board before - check with the school's band director.
Many have equipment lists, similar to school supply lists.
And bear in mind, regardless of what the auction listing says, many eBay instruments need servicing, sometimes full repads or overhauls.
- Paul Dods
Dallas, Texas
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-09-13 03:51
I can't make out much if any difference between the Reso-tone 3 and the 7214. Perhaps the 7214 is just the next incarnation (the Reso-Tone 3 being alternately listed as a 7213).
Either would be fine.
............Paul Aviles
Post Edited (2014-09-13 03:58)
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Author: as9934
Date: 2014-09-13 05:19
Regarding the alpha one that one auction site: In the description it says it is a brand new demo unit that has hardly been used. Im not affiliated with Backun, but I still think you should check it out.
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Wind Ensemble
Buffet E11 clarinet , Vandoren Masters CL6 13 series mouthpiece w/ Pewter M/O Ligature, Vandoren V12 3.5
Yamaha 200ad clarinet, Vandoren B45 mouthpiece, Rovner ligature
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Author: Ursa
Date: 2014-09-15 17:55
The Vito Reso-Tone 3 is the model 7212, and lacks a bell ring. The 7214 has a lyre-shaped Vito logos on both joints plus the barrel and bell, and also is equipped with a bell ring. Look for this logo on the lower joint, as it is the one least prone to wearing away.
The 7213 was the Dazzler edition of the 7212. They came in blue, yellow, white, red, a wonderfully gaudy Day-Glo green, and possibly other colours. I'm waiting for one of those green ones to turn up cheap somewhere...
The minor functional differences between these Vito models will not be noticed by anyone but an advanced player. All are great starter instruments.
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