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 One and one fingering
Author: cox91 
Date:   2014-04-24 01:51

Okay so I recently heard about the one and one fingering (The third fingering here: http://www.bestsaxophonewebsiteever.com/wp-content/uploads/Bb-fingerings.jpg)
on the middle register Bb:[Bb4]

For some reason I can't get the sound out. I made sure my clarinet was aligned properly and then I played it again, but it still sounded fuzzy and the note that comes out doesn't sound like a B at all.
I told a professional clarinetist about my problem and he couldn't tell what was wrong. He said he's never heard that sound come out of a clarinet and so I'm not sure if my clarinet needs fixing. All other notes sound fine on my clarinet and I can play the Bb using the register key and it sounds fine. I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions for me.

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 Re: One and one fingering
Author: AAAClarinet 
Date:   2014-04-24 01:59

The Bb for this fingering is an octave higher, with register key. Without register key you get the Eb bellow the note in your post.

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 Re: One and one fingering
Author: Steven Ocone 
Date:   2014-04-24 02:59

This gets out of adjustment easy. With the clarinet together push down the 3 ring key on the lower joint. The key it connects to on the upper joint should go down all the way. Some tape between the area where the keys meet can be used as an emergency fix. Too much tape and the 3-ring key won't close all the way which will cause other problems.

Steve Ocone


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 Re: One and one fingering
Author: pacherry 
Date:   2014-04-24 03:34

Sometimes slightly rotating the tenons can fix this.

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 Re: One and one fingering
Author: TJTG 
Date:   2014-04-24 04:11

This is a saxophone fingering chart as well.

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 Re: One and one fingering
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2014-04-24 05:28

But don't forget about using resonance fingerings for the "throat Bb" shown above. Using the standard octave key and "A" key, just add fingers 2 and 3 of both hands. This gives you a fuller sound for this note. It is good fingering for pretty much any approach to, or from Bb.




.............Paul Aviles

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 Re: One and one fingering
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2014-04-24 06:12

Wait - go back to the original question.

Jared, if you're trying to play [Bb4] with 1 and 1, it won't work (as AAAClarinet said). That fingering on a clarinet produces either [Eb4] or [Bb5]. It *does* produce [Bb4] on a saxophone, and the chart you're looking at is a sax fingering chart.

All the advice you've gotten about getting the 1 and 1 Bb to sound better is perfectly good if you're trying for [Bb5]. If you're trying to improve throat Bb [Bb4], Paul's advice applies.

Karl



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 Re: One and one fingering
Author: ThatPerfectReed 
Date:   2014-04-24 07:10

Karl's point notwithstanding and to elaborate on Steven's, if it's a [D#4] or [A#5] you wish to play with the 1 and 1 fingering, and you are not having success, you should rule out misaligned keys being a possible problem as follows.

1) Press down the tone hole key for the left pointer finger. See the key go down.

2) Now, keeping this finger down, press down on the tone hole key for the right pointer finger.

3) Now, keeping the right hand pointer finger down, slowly release the left and observe if the key comes up a little, or stays where it is. If it comes up a bit, these mechanism and keys Steve described may require adjusting by someone in the know on this.

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Also, make sure that when the right hand pointer, middle, and/or ring fingers go down on their respective tone holes, that the pad covering the hole above the right hand pointer finger seals. A way you can test the overall seal of the instrument is by putting together the upper and lower joints only, sticking the open end of the bottom joint against, say, an unclothed thigh, and your mouth at the top open end, and putting all the finger down as if making the clarinet's [E3]. Ability to blow in or out should meet resistance.

If you can do either one freely, you need to rule out leaks as a problem.



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 Re: One and one fingering
Author: concertmaster3 
Date:   2014-04-24 09:20

Just a note to the original post...
Although clarinet and saxophone share some fingerings, a saxophone fingering chart is not going to be beneficial to your clarinet playing. If you're looking for alternate fingerings, I'd suggest using the chart here.

As mentioned above, the Th 1--|1-- fingering is for high B-flat
[Bb5] and low E-flat [Eb4], not for [Bb4].

I hope this helps you, and good luck!

Ron Ford
Woodwind Specialist
Performer/Teacher/Arranger
http://www.RonFordMusic.com

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