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Fingering Question K622

Author: ThatPerfectReed
Date: 2014-04-22 06:08

1) Go to

http://imslp.org/wiki/Clarinet_Concerto_in_A_major,_K.622_(Mozart,_Wolfgang_Amadeus)#Clarinet_solo

2) Click the view button on the second entry that reads complete part (in A). Skip the first entry that says "EU" at the end of the title.

3) Should the music fail to appear in some browsers, hit the plus key in the upper right hand corner of the score, and then the negative key to shrink it back down. That should make it appear, and in the right size respectfully.

Question 1: At measure 110, regarding the "B4" [B4]

that immediately follows the "G#4" [G#4]

, who plays it with the right pinky and who with the left, and why?

Question 2: What pinky do you play the "C5" [C5]

two notes later with?

Post Edited (2014-04-22 06:11)

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Re: Fingering Question K622

Author: GBK
Date: 2014-04-22 06:28

More importantly, why are you using/referencing such an awful edition?

...GBK

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Re: Fingering Question K622

Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-04-22 14:41

Because it is moving swiftly (like a scale), I play it like a scale, so the "B" is played with BOTH and the "C" is played just with the right.

.......Paul Aviles

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Re: Fingering Question K622

Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2014-04-22 17:33

With two choices for each of the two notes you ask about, I'm sure there are players who use each combination.

That said, I can't think of any reason here or through the rest of mm. 109-110 to play the C5 on the left - the right hand C key on most clarinets is in a more comfortable place and is for most of us the "regular" C fingering (this is, after all, only a slightly ornamented C Major/A minor scale). Like Paul I take the B on the left, again because for scale purposes, it's my "regular" B fingering. It's not actually a passage I ever think about, but I'm pretty sure, like Paul, I probably just put both pinkies down for B (LH B, RH C) and then, just leave my right pinky on the C key and keep my other 3 right hand fingers down while I play the A.

Karl

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Re: Fingering Question K622

Author: ThatPerfectReed
Date: 2014-04-22 18:21

I too take the B4 with the left pinky Karl. It's just that the preceding G#4 serves to move that very left pinky away from its mark, no matter how delicately one seeks to play the G#4, with respect to the fact that the left hand wrist will need to rotate clockwise immediately after this G#4 to hit the B4.

Like you said, different players handle it differently. I was just inspired to ask because of having just watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q_uru6k1hAp

This was a winning audition to the Youtube Orchestra of 2011. The player seems to take the B4 with the right pinky, leading me to wonder.

For me, this is a hard phrase to master, and an easy one to lose if I don't practice it regularly: much like my tennis serve.

I agree that right hand pinky down, albeit on the "C" lever--in fact right hand down helps make the B4, by both stabilizing the clarinet, and having to only worry about each of the fingers on the left hand meeting their exact mark, and not, for example, touching the left hand chromatic key, or missing a tone hole, or losing a note going from a throat tone G#4 to an all fingers down B4.

Thanks.

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Re: Fingering Question K622

Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2014-04-22 18:48

I would disagree with the notion that one would want to "rotate" or change the wrist position AT ALL. Bear with me. If you move the entire palm, then NONE of your fingers are where they need to be for the next note (or the previous note). It's much better to accomplish all your fingering needs stictly with your FINGERS !!!!

...............Paul Aviles

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Re: Fingering Question K622

Author: ThatPerfectReed
Date: 2014-04-22 22:05

Paul:

I seem to recall that some slight change in angle between forearm and palm (i.e. wrist angle) was necessary. But maybe you've given me a whole new way to try this that was my true stumbling block....must try...thanks..

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Re: Fingering Question K622

Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2014-04-25 16:07

The youtube orchestra was basically a joke.

When a fmr. Metropolitan Opera player who is still very much in his prime doesn't get anywhere with it, that speaks volumes.

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com

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