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Author: BobD
Date: 2013-09-29 19:55
I recently bought a plastic Yamaha recorder and it had plastic tenon protectors on the tenons. I guess they were there simply to keep the tenon grease from being removed. I've never seen any such device on a clarinet. Seems like a decent idea to protect clarinet cork tenons. Anyone seen such things for clarinets?
Bob Draznik
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Author: TJTG
Date: 2013-09-29 20:15
I was just mentioning this to my oboe and flute playing friends. They always seem to have them.
On flutes it protects their joints from getting nicked and bent. Oboe's seem to be 1/2 and 1/2 with or without. I have never seen a clarinet with them.
Personally I don't really see the point beyond keeping the case grease-free. Many clarinet tenons now have metal caps to keep the wood from chipping. As far as protecting the tenon it would stand to reason they're not getting nicked up in the case, rather when they're out and being put together/taken apart.... so is it really helping out, or is it just an aesthetically pleasing feature?
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2013-09-29 23:18
Every oboe that has passed through my hands has been equipped with tenon protectors (except when they have clearly just been lost).
I like the idea of them to help keep the tenon corks from drying out as well as keeping grease off the case and have frequently toyed with the idea of turning some up on the lathe.
I tend however to think the reason they are not used on clarinets is the sheer quantity involved i.e. 4 for one instrument but 8 for a pair and 12 if you throw in an Eb.
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2013-09-30 00:30
The one Rossi clarinet (one piece body) I saw had plastic tenon protectors to be used when storing the instrument in its case.
Jeff
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Author: bmcgar ★2017
Date: 2013-09-30 01:49
Yes, all Rossi clarinets have them...and I'm glad they do.
If I'm not mistaken, Muncy Winds sold them for two-piece body clarinets at one point, but I don't see them on their Web site now. Probably not a big seller, but maybe Phil would make up a set for someone who wants them.
B.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2013-09-30 02:29
If you use them, you must be scrupulous about cleaning every bit of water and gunk out of the bottoms of the sockets and the bases of the tenons. Otherwise, the caps hold water in, which gets absorbed through the end-grain.
Every advanced oboist and every repair tech I know advises dropping the caps in the garbage. The place where the tenons are LEAST likely to get damaged is in the case.
Ken Shaw
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2013-09-30 04:19
From what I remember, the Rossi clarinets don't just have these, but they sit on them while in the case, as opposed to a cut out in the shape of the clarinet. This is probably to protect them against bumps etc. and the cotnra against the shoulder can help (slightly) against the tenon breaking. I'd prefer the usual cut out anyway.
Other than that, I've never seen a single tenon gets broken or damaged while the clarinet was inside a regular decent case. I guess it's possible but extremely rare. IMO the hassle of putting them on and off far outweights any possible (or imaginary) advantage they have.
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Author: Gordon (NZ)
Date: 2013-09-30 10:36
They are not tenon protectors at all. Tenons are never damaged while in the case.
They just keep the lining of the case cleaner.
And a flute should never have them. That is becasue the tenons are not gresed, so they do't dirty the case. I've never seen a pro flute with one.
And as suggested, I guess they are not on clarinets because the quantity would be a nuisance.
And cork grease must be of a rather crappy type if it needs to be covered to stop it drying out. There should only be the tiniest trace of it anyway - not enough to mess up the case. If more is needed, then it is the wrong type. My impression is taht oboe cork grease has a history of being horrible, sticky, fatty material, in a tiny, difficult-to-open container that my little finger does not even fit into. Go figure, as they say.
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Author: MichaelW
Date: 2013-09-30 15:17
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That's my F.A.Uebel (from 1960/61, according to Hansdenijs) in its original GDR case. Indeed, none of my other clarinets or recorders has such protectors.
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