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 MP - selmer c85 210 vs gennusa excellente vs gigliotti
Author: Eina Kari Rajesh 
Date:   2013-08-12 19:13

Hi all, please help/guide me choosing one of the three mps. I play for about an year with Ycl250-yamaha4c-vandoren v12#3.5 setup. I was told by my master that I have a good tone, but I feel a bit struggling with #3.5 right out of the box, thanks to Ken, that I sand the reed to my comfort.
This attempt of mp upgradation (only the above mentioned mps are available here-all used for about $85) is only to see how far can I go. At some point in future I may upgrade to custom horn.
Looking forward to your expertise.
BTW, I admire bb and all your contribution, though I never posted any threads, I have been immensly educated by you all in this past one year. I wish I could have mentioned the names!

EKR

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 Re: MP - selmer c85 210 vs gennusa excellente vs gigliotti
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2013-08-12 20:13

I have not tried the C85 myself but I am familiar with the Gigliotti and the Gennusa.


I have had a great deal of success with a Gennusa GE**. They have a quick response and nice sound. If there is any drawback, it is that they tend to be lower in pitch and might cause some internal pitch problems, but of the three you mention I feel it is the best by far.



......................Paul Aviles



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 Re: MP - selmer c85 210 vs gennusa excellente vs gigliotti
Author: Wes 
Date:   2013-08-12 20:57

The Selmer C85 works great on my Selmer basset horn!

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 Re: MP - selmer c85 210 vs gennusa excellente vs gigliotti
Author: clarinetguy 2017
Date:   2013-08-12 21:01

Of the three, the only one I've used is also the Gennusa, and I really like it (a GE*). If your reeds are too hard, don't hesitate to try something softer.

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 Re: MP - selmer c85 210 vs gennusa excellente vs gigliotti
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2013-08-12 23:10

I haven't played any of these mouthpieces.

If you can afford to order from a source outside India, I suggest a Fobes Debut, which is available on Amazon at a low price. It will be a significant upgrade from your Yamaha 4C.

Ken Shaw

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 Re: MP - selmer c85 210 vs gennusa excellente vs gigliotti
Author: John Peacock 
Date:   2013-08-13 10:09

I play a Selmer C85 120 and much prefer it to the others you mention. But there's a catch: Selmer used to make nice mouthpieces, but seem to have forgotten how to do it in recent years. I would be reluctant to recommend a new Selmer, although if you can find an older second-hand one, then that could be a good choice.

But one of the deficiencies of newer Selmers could be a strength: they are very inconsistent in quality. So if you have a chance to try out several specimens, there is a chance you can find something to suit you. Actually, this variability applies to most makers. Only Vandoren seem to be able to churn them out in a consistent way - but I've never found a Vandoren model that I could make sound nice.

So I think the conclusion is that you have to try things out: there are so many variables, including the shape of your mouth, that just buying something blind by mail order is almost certain to lead to disappointment.

And even if you do go to a shop and find something that sounds good, be sure to get it on a week's approval. Things that sound good when blown briefly in a small test room all too often turn out to be less impressive once you get them home.

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 Re: MP - selmer c85 210 vs gennusa excellente vs gigliotti
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2013-08-13 15:58

Most mail order stores will send you 3-4 MPs to try on a trial bases. I suggest you order at least one of each and try them. Only you can tell which is best for you. Once you decide on one it's not a bad idea to ask to have several of that one sent to you to pick the best one since no two are ever alike.

ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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