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Author: Garth Libre
Date: 2013-04-19 12:57
I've spent the last three weeks working on Rose Etude #1, and now that I have the expression, timing and fingering down, I am starting to add the trills. Most of them are pretty straight forward if not a little clumsy, except for one. In bar #22, there is a trill from D# to C#. I've never had any trouble playing either one of these notes but the trill I'm using causes the note to eventually stop speaking after one or two waves. I'm using the left hand C# fingering while holding it down to go to the D# right pinky. What am I doing wrong?
Garth, 305-981-4705. garthlibre@yahoo.com
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2013-04-19 13:22
Make sure none of your RH fingers are coming away from (slightly uncovering) the tonehole chimneys when trilling with your RH pinky which will cause it to pack up.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2013-04-19 13:32
Along Chris's line of thought -- I'd be watching the RH ring finger.
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: kdk ★2017
Date: 2013-04-19 16:26
Garth, the trill in bar 22 is D# to E - you trill upward. The C# is the first of the two end notes (nachschlag), so you trill D#-E for two beats, then just before the next downbeat, end with the C#-D# and resolve on E on beat 1 of measure 23.
If you hold the D# for just an instant before you move to the C#, you'll probably have an easier time coordinating it. Maybe practice it at first with an even longer hold on the last D# of the trill, them reduce it until it's nearly imperceptible.
Karl
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Author: Garth Libre
Date: 2013-04-19 20:18
This is part of the problem of trying to go it alone without a teacher. I understood theoretically and had read many times that all trills, if not otherwise specified are to the next higher note. However, I thought the the C# to D# notation pertained to the trill itself. That was my mistake and thank you for setting me straight. I know I'll have no trouble trilling from D# to E, and I hope I'll be able to get a smooth C# to D# for one set of grace notes. I feel a little stupid for not understanding the notation. That said, I should still be able to move the pinky without lifting the ring finger. I have my work set out for me.
Garth, 305-981-4705. garthlibre@yahoo.com
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Author: Bob Phillips
Date: 2013-04-19 22:58
Garth,
Please don't feel stupid about asking questions here. I'm pleased that our colleague, kdk, Karl was able to help out.
Congratulations on having come so far along the path to making music out of the first of the Rose Etudes.
Bob Phillips
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Author: tims
Date: 2013-04-21 06:09
It is a D# to E trill and likewise the line above is a E to F trill, not an E to D#. The small notes following are to be played at the end of the trill as a turn. That is, end the trill on a D# and then play the written turn C# to D# being careful to hit the E in the next measure precisely on the beat. Always give the C# a slight tenuto or slight emphasis (key word is slight) since this is an andante and shouldn't be played too fast.
Though some people are quite capable of trilling D# to E simply moving the third finger, this has simply never worked for me and I always trill using both third and pinky. When doing this always think of moving the fingers up an away from the horn rather than any kind rolling motion toward the top of the horn. This should be finger motion only, not wrist.
Don't be tempted to keep the left hand C# open during the trill, it will not make the turn any easier and it will sharpen the D#.
But you do need an answer to trilling C# to D# should you encounter it elsewhere. Chris P is correct about uncovering RH tone holes and I would again say to minimize wrist motion and concentrate on finger motion alone. Another problem may be the left hand C# linkage and spring tension. The C# key opens one hole and closes another. If the spring tension is high and/or the linkage is loose, it may feel as if you have the key closed when in is still slightly open. Check the left hand keys and see if the have too much play (do they move left to right rather than just up and down).
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