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Author: AAAClarinet
Date: 2013-03-19 06:01
when ever i quickly articulate notes clarion G#, A, Bb, my clarinet queaks very easily. I knew i had pad issues so i had my clarinet overhauled. i'm very happy with the overhaul, everything seals well and suction is good, but the problem is still there. it doesn't happen when i try my friends festival. i play an e11 german. Any thought would be appreciated
thank you for your time
AAAClarinet
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Author: Tony F
Date: 2013-03-19 07:38
It could be a mouthpiece or reed position problem. Have you tried other mouthpieces yet?
Tony F.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2013-03-19 08:06
What about B and C just above those notes (top of the clarion)? First thing I'd make sure is that the top ring key linkage arm doesn't lift one of the trill keys when you press it, just cracking it open.
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Author: AAAClarinet
Date: 2013-03-19 08:39
mouthpiece and reeds dont seem to make a difference. i will check the trill keys, thanks
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2013-03-19 12:06
As you're describing it AAA clarinet, this could easily be several matters: too much embouchure pressure applied, miss-stroking of the reed by the tongue, back tongue position too high, lack of support, etc...alone or in combination.
I would take the instrument back just to make sure, but it may be that if you try to relax more (and support more) you may find that you need a more delicate touch.
Please understand no offense is intended -- diagnosing these issues through the BB without hearing your frustrations actually occur is difficult. I wouldn't make the suggestions that I have if you didn't seem so certain the instrument is sound.
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: Tobin
Date: 2013-03-19 12:28
As I re-read your original post I feel more certain that it isn't an equipment issue. If there was a leak on the instrument you'd be experiencing squeaking on first register Db, D, and Eb (and throughout the chalumeau!). If it's only in the top of the second register -- it's a fundamental issue.
James
Gnothi Seauton
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Author: AAAClarinet
Date: 2013-03-19 16:24
even though the the problem doesn't present itself when i play my friends festival i admitt that i could be the problem. in two weeks i will be having a lesson with our symphony's principal clarinetist and hopefully get it worked out. thank for all the help
AAAClarinet
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2013-03-19 16:48
Fwiw, those notes were probably some of the harder notes for me to learn to play correctly and consistently. Something about the partials, venting, a finer line to overblow into the altissimo. I used to focus long tones on THOSE notes often just to get THEM better as they tended to either overblow or I used to get an undertone when playing them.
What worked for me was really concentrating on having a strong steady airflow and not biting down on the embouchure. Too little air and I'd get a grunt. Too much pressure and I'd squeak. Man those notes stunk for me and it made webers concertino's entrance a nightmare for me.
Alexi
US Army Japan Band
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Author: LJBraaten
Date: 2013-03-19 17:22
You might also have your friend try playing it to see if the problem is in the clarinet.
Laurie
Laurie (he/him)
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Author: Steven Ocone
Date: 2013-03-19 22:46
It's hard to diagnose without seeing the clarinet. The suction test isn't definitive (we don't play by sucking on the clarinet, though the word could be used to describe my playing).
Leaks can occur at tenon corks. Plumbers teflon tape can be used to seal the tenon. See if it makes a difference.
If there is play in some of the keys, they may not always land in the same place and may sometimes be leaking.
Also check the ring heights. If they are too high your fingers may not be sealing the tone hole. If the are too low, the pad on that key may not be sealing.
Steve Ocone
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2013-03-19 23:22
one of my favourite "leak" tests is to inflate a party balloon attached in lieu of the bell. (you may want to inflate it once by mouth lest it'd pop open spring-closed keys)
You'll quickly find out if somewhere excessive pressure is necessary in order to get it "tight", you'll see if the key ring heights suit your fingers, if you inadvertently touch eg the c#/g# key, if some springs are too weak to properly keep the key closed etc.
I much prefer that over suction tests.
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Ben
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Author: AAAClarinet
Date: 2013-03-20 00:49
Sounds good. Thanks' I'll have access to balloons tomorrow. Thank you everyone
AAAClarinet
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