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 college audition confusion
Author: Remus 
Date:   2012-09-30 21:29

When a college or university uses words like "pieces" or "works", what should I take that to mean? Do they want one movement or the entire sonata/concerto/etc.?

for instance: “Two pieces in contrasting styles, selected from the standard concerto, sonata, or solo repertoire..."
AND
“Perform two contrasting works from standard repertoire."

Thanks for any input!

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: jvanullen 
Date:   2012-09-30 23:26

I would e-mail the professor directly, as they'll definitely know. I agree that this is often vague. Is this for undergraduate work or graduate work?

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Remus 
Date:   2012-10-01 01:08

I'll email them tonight!
It's undergraduate and it's terrifying.

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2012-10-01 01:18

Just as a matter of course you can safely assume that NO ONE will sit and listen to one candidate for an hour. You can use a short fast mvt. and and a short slow mvt of different periods to cover the most ground and that should be fine.



................Paul Aviles



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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Remus 
Date:   2012-10-01 02:17

That makes complete sense, thank you!

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Ken Shaw 2017
Date:   2012-10-01 02:35

I agree with Paul. However, the judge may ask for a passage from another movement, so you should have the entire work under your fingers. When you finish the slow movement of the Mozart Concerto, for example, I wouldn't be surprised to be asked "OK, now let's hear the opening of the finale."

Ken Shaw

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: clarinetist04 
Date:   2012-10-01 02:46

Great advice, Ken. I had that happen to me my freshman year auditioning for my university's wind ensemble. I played a part of the first movement of the Mozart and he stopped me and asked me to play a certain passage from the 2nd movement.

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Remus 
Date:   2012-10-01 03:46

That's amazing advice because I would never have thought that that could happen.

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: susannah 
Date:   2012-10-01 23:46

It means entire works. Been there, done that.. they will choose which movement they want to hear. E-mail the teachers if you like, but this was the case at all the college auditions I have done. Join college confidential and check out the music colleges section for lots of great advice.

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: jvanullen 
Date:   2012-10-02 03:57

I wouldn't necessarily say that Susannah. Especially for undergraduate work...One school I auditioned at required a complete concerto, but they said that specifically. The schools that asked for two contrasting works accepted movements (I played first movement of Weber 2 and second movement of Poulenc, for example). I would just be safe and email them.

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: DavidBlumberg 
Date:   2012-10-02 13:42

Bring in a stack of music, and ask them to pick  ;)

http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com


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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Remus 
Date:   2012-10-02 21:59

Thanks everybody! I'll email those schools tonight so I can really start nailing down my audition materials.

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2012-10-02 23:49

When we asked that for the Peabody auditions when I taught there we wanted to have the entire piece prepared. That's what most schools would ask for. We would let the student play what they wanted to play first and then we had the option of asking for anything else listed. Some schools were very strict about it and others more lenient.

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: C.Elizabeth07 
Date:   2012-10-04 03:53

I agree with Jvenullen. For my undegrads they only required one movement but said "work". I would email them and ask them to clarify just to be safe. The auditions are very brief and there are standard things they always ask to hear depending on what you prepare (Like if you prepare the Mozart you'll probably only wind up playing the Expo). If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. The last thing you want is to walk in and get a nasty shock of "oh I was supposed to learn this but I didn't and now you want me to play?" and make sure you go over the requirements of each school very carefully there are a lot of similarities but there are also some slight differences and you want to make sure you prepare exactly what you need.

What schools are you looking at?

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2012-10-04 08:10

For starters, know your scales up to 4 sharps and flats, major, minor, and chromatic. Slurring and articulating. No school is the same of course. I auditioned at Eastman during the Stanley Hasty days and he spent 10 minutes just on long tones, mainly the low E. ppp< fff>ppp. I spent about 4 minutes on the beginning of the Copland and for sight read was the Pines of Rome solos, about another 1 minute. He was interested in how I handled going from the low notes to high D softly. I felt that was a very fair and a very smart audition that Hasty prepared.

Once you get a music list let us know whats on it. Often the audition requirements are already posted on the internet.

I cannot stress this enough. You must put in quality time with sight reading. Work with your instructor with time organization.

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2012-10-04 08:18

I just looked up the Curtis audition requirements

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2012-10-04 08:21

I just looked up the Curtis Institute clarinet requirements.

It didn't post on here. grrrrr

http://www.curtis.edu/admissions/audition/orchestral-instruments/#Clarinet

Maybe this will work


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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Remus 
Date:   2012-10-04 12:02

Thanks guys!
I've heard back from one school and they clarified that they're just looking for single movements (Concordia).

My top three schools are Concordia College at Moorhead, St. Olaf College (Northfield, MN), and Lawrence University (Appleton, WI).

The St. Olaf requirements are extremely straight-forward (and demanding!) and I'm still waiting to hear back from Lawrence.

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: jvanullen 
Date:   2012-10-04 17:48

Best of luck to you! I have several friends who are at/were at both St. Olaf and Lawrence. They have great reputations, and from what I saw personally, really did a great job preparing their students.

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 Re: college audition confusion
Author: Remus 
Date:   2012-10-04 20:12

Thank you very much!

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