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Author: traceywooo
Date: 2012-09-01 05:54
Attachment: SBSopClar2013-1.pdf (78k)
Hello all!
I have attached an etude that I am currently working on for reference. Please look at the end of measure 2/beginning of measure 3 of the 2nd etude if you wish.
The etude has the grace notes middle Bb to middle C. Usually for that I play Bb as usual and then press the top two keys for the quick C. Unfortunately, the note BEFORE these grace notes is a middle C. You can imagine how awkward it is to try and rush my right hand all the way up to my side keys. Any advice?
P.S. Sorry about the mass of no subject posts. I have no idea how that happened.
Post Edited (2012-09-01 05:57)
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2012-09-01 08:12
At that tempo, I'd simply skip the grace note, especially when squeezed in between groups of 1/32 notes - no one is going to notice. Better be able to play the whole shebang a tempo unornamented than compromise accuracy.
But I'm a mere amateur player, so take this with a grain of salt.
--
Ben
Post Edited (2012-09-01 10:22)
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Author: Lorenzo_M
Date: 2012-09-01 08:36
Go from pinch Bb (or your choice of appropriate resonance fingering) to trill C. Basically just a small flick of the trill key. It's the side C fingering.
Even at this tempo, you can play Bb to long C and back to Bb. Trill (side C) is the faster though (and these are grace notes, so they are quick).
But if this will screw up your time/rhythm, then leave the grace notes out as Ben suggested.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2012-09-01 09:34
Definitely use the trill keys for this - play Bb as normal and use both trill keys together for the C. There are other instances in other pieces where you're better using this fingering for C instead of going over the break.
While you won't see this fingering in a basic fingering chart, it is a very useful fingering for C whenever there's a Bb-C trill or ornament, or in other fast circumstances to keep things smooth.
As it makes the note C, don't let anyone tell you it's not the correct fingering and you shouldn't use it. There are loads of notes that can be got by using fingerings that aren't in basic fingering charts. So long as they make the actual note and it's in tune is all that matters - even better still if they make certain passages much easier for you.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: rdc
Date: 2012-09-01 12:26
The solution is to play both C's with the trill fingering. The notes before and after the two C's are throat tones, and the speed of the etude means you won't be on that first C long enough to notice the quality difference from the regular fingering.
Robert Chest
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2012-09-01 12:28
It is a little tricky getting to there from the C prior to the grace notes, but it is possible! Just keep practicing! And yes, use the trill fingering for the C grace note.
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2012-09-01 15:34
You could use the "trill" key on the side for the first C as well or just work it through as Katrina suggested, It's very possible.
ESP eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: Katrina
Date: 2012-09-01 21:11
Oh yeah...Using the trill fingering for the preceding C would work too...
I hadn't noticed that, Ed!
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2012-09-01 22:38
When you reach the third quarter note at the end of measure 15, rest the bell on your knee and move your right thumb up to the top two trill keys. Flick the trill keys with your thumb and return it back under the thumb rest.
If that's too discombobulating, at a tempo of eighth = 116, you still have time to get your right index finger up to flick the trill keys. Depending you the length of your finger, it will contact the trill keys at about distal interphalangeal joint http://revealingpaws.com/revealingpaws/UK%20pages/Content%20UK/Glossary/Individual%20Words/Distal%20Interphalangeal%20Joint.htm.
For both motions, it's important to keep the rest of your right hand still, neither rolling your wrist nor flexing your wrist.
Ken Shaw
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