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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2012-06-17 02:03
I have the distinct pleasure of receiving several Artist Series Bay mouthpieces with the the MO-M opening. All are the "brown" hard rubber models, one of which is a duckbill design.
Firstly, it is a pleasure playing on a mouthpiece that starts out playing in tune.
Many of today's custom mouthpieces generate a 'lower' pitch (literally a full half step lower.......a concert 'C' rather that 'Db.' This typical configuration (in my opinion) throws off the twelfths in an irretrievable way. One must consider that the a lower/higher generating pitch is fundamentally different than changing pitch by subsequently lengthening or shortening the tube with different sized barrels.
I don't know a better way to describe playing a 'low' mouthpiece than to say that it feels as though I am "playing against the mouthpiece." The first space 'F' is always too low and if the problem is bad enough, all notes from the second ledger 'C' on up are also very flat as well.
This is NOT the case with the Bay mouthpieces which allow you to relax into the pitch (perhaps another term specific to me).
Another benefit of this effect is that now, tone colors are MUCH more variable and they are variable more within my control.
Another the great thing about these mouthpieces is that the curvature of the lay must be quite finely worked up to the very tip because the response and control of the highest altissimo notes is very good.
These particular mouthpieces I ordered are made of a brown hard rubber that is a slightly softer composition (not to the touch, but by Mr. Bay's personal description). This material seems to give them a warmer sound than some Bays that I had tried in the past made of the more standard black hard rubber.
And finally, they have a VERY broad dynamic range which I attribute to the substantial baffle length of these mouthpieces. I must contrast these to the diametrically opposed design of the Vandoren Masters' mouthpieces. Those Vandorens ARE of good pitch and get a lovely small sound, but they top off dynamically quite quickly and cannot achieve more sound no matter how much more air one tries to push into them. The Masters are at least 2mm shorter and this length seems to be represented all in the beak/baffle area which leads me to believe this is the design area that lends this dynamic characteristic to these mouthpieces.
In summary, I cannot say enough positive things about my experience with the Bay mouthpieces and look forward to much more time on them to realize their full potential.
.................Paul Aviles
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Author: William
Date: 2012-06-17 16:11
Back in my college days ('59-'65) many of us were atrracted to Charlies mpcs simply because they allowed us more musical flexability. Mine was a custom "Ithica" Ched. blank on which he copied my Chicago Kaspar #14 facing. After all these years, I still carry that mpc as my spare--and often play it instead of my Kaspar just for "change". I've tried many other "custom" mpcies, but always keep coming back home to my old Kaspar and Bay models.
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Author: Randall
Date: 2012-06-18 19:04
I've had a Bay since '96, and I have to agree that it really shines in the altissimo range. RC
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Author: rmk54
Date: 2012-06-18 21:51
Randall wrote:
> I've had a Bay since '96, and I have to agree that it really
> shines in the altissimo range. RC
Isn't that distracting for the audience?
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Author: Presto ★2017
Date: 2012-06-19 06:37
Hello Paul,
I'm interested in the Bay mouthpieces also. Which specific models did you trial, HI, H2 etc?
Thanks
Jim
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Author: Randall
Date: 2012-06-19 14:45
Isn't that distracting for the audience?
Well, it was either that or a dark mouthpiece which can't be seen;) RC
Post Edited (2012-06-19 15:47)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2012-06-20 13:19
After trying several H1s and H3s (I liked the H3s of those better) and getting some advice from Mr. Bay, I wound up with the H2 (the Cheddville copy). These are the darkest of the group but that is only relative to the others and in no way implies any lack of overtones or interesting color !!!
.............Paul Aviles
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Author: JHowell
Date: 2012-06-20 20:39
I looked at the Bay website and am left wondering. From the pictures of the "brown" rubber mouthpiece, it would seem that the mouthpieces are being machined from rod stock, but no description of the blanks is given. Are they proprietary blanks to Bay, or are they Zinners with all the markings sanded off? And while price is probably irrelevant if they're THAT good, it would be nice to see a price list. Can you shed any light?
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2012-06-21 00:10
Bay uses blanks from Germany but they are NOT Zinners (I was particularly interested in this since I have had some issues with "low pitch" Zinners).
A call to Bay or e-mail will get you answers to specific questions, but I can tell you the Artist Series mouthpieces are $300 so far.
.................Paul Aviles
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