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 Interesting cadenza in Weber Concerto #1
Author: GBK 
Date:   2012-01-18 07:51

Karl-Heinz Steffens live performance in 1994

Cadenza at the 07:42 mark -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ansImxgW7eU&feature=related

...GBK

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 Re: Interesting cadenza in Weber Concerto #1
Author: 2E 
Date:   2012-01-18 08:14

Wow, I didn't expect that. It's like he's playing an entirely different piece, is there a reason for this seemingly excessive cadenza?


Don't get me wrong, fantastic playing ... I just don't think it fits.



2E

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 Re: Interesting cadenza in Weber Concerto #1
Author: Paul Aviles 
Date:   2012-01-18 08:46

Interesting.


This IS what a cadence point is for, like it or not. I'm ok with performances where the cadenza is in character with the period and with the possible exception of the most octavy section this one is pretty good. Where some performers go horribly wrong is when the technique they wish to put forth takes precedence over the style of the piece..........then it becomes just obnoxious.



.................Paul Aviles

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 Re: Interesting cadenza in Weber Concerto #1
Author: clarinetist04 
Date:   2012-01-18 11:42

Yes - Marsalis' Ibert Concertino cadenza comes to mind. Within the style? Maybe. Obnoxious - YES.

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 Re: Interesting cadenza in Weber Concerto #1
Author: rmk54 
Date:   2012-01-18 12:35

No one mentioned that the cadenza was composed by Lorin Maazel, so Mr. Steffens probably had no choice but to play it.

I don't like his conducting either...

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 Re: Interesting cadenza in Weber Concerto #1
Author: MarlboroughMan 
Date:   2012-01-18 13:37

Thanks, GBK--I hadn't seen or heard of this before. I'm a fan of Maazel and this cadenza works.

It's operatic, and grows from Weber's style quite well. The staccato leaps are absolutely in character of the period: see the concerti of Franz Tausch, teacher of Heinrich Baermann, for whom the Weber concerti were written. These sort of altissimo/chalumeau leaps were a feature of his style (and can also be found in the Muller etudes I mentioned on another thread).

I would be interested to hear it played by a variety of players---the tremelos in particular seem to have potential for a range of differing interpretations.

Great stuff.


Eric

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 Re: Interesting cadenza in Weber Concerto #1
Author: Bob Bernardo 
Date:   2012-01-18 23:43

Well, needless to say it is very different. Towards the ending it sort of sounds like the last page of the Copland Concerto then at the actual end, well a few bars from the end, there's a hint of the Neison Concerto. Great orchestra, nice hall to play in, decent player with very few mistakes. Fast articulation. I had no idea Lorin Maazel wrote this.

After a few times hearing this I kind of liked it.

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