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 help!clarinet intonation
Author: pzh97 
Date:   2011-10-05 13:21

Hello all,
I have a 1936 Buffet Bb clarinet.I bought it a month ago.
But I found the intonation of this clarinet isn't standard.(I have replaced all the pads).But my principal preoccupation is
1:the f,g,a(alto) is not standard.I feel it lower than normal.
2:too sharp in left hand notes with 12th key (G, G#, A, #A, B and C).
By the way,I use a very old "all star" mouthpiece and 3.5 vandoren reed.
What should I do?
THANKS A LOT!
pzh97

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 Re: help!clarinet intonation
Author: chris moffatt 
Date:   2011-10-05 13:41

Is the barrel original to this instrument? If not its bore and/or length may not be right. If you have other barrels and mouthpieces handy you could try them on this horn to see if the situation improves.

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 Re: help!clarinet intonation
Author: pzh97 
Date:   2011-10-05 13:50

It is the original barrel .

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 Re: help!clarinet intonation
Author: William 
Date:   2011-10-05 14:37

If I understand your description, the F, G & A (throat tones??) just need to be played with a more firm embouchure to bring them "in tune". The left hand notes in the clarion are usually sharp and need to be played with a slightly relaxed embouchure. This myth regarding playing all registers on the clarinet with the same firm embouchure should be discontinued as fact. The "fact" is that no clarinet is perfectly in tune and certain notes need to be bent--via embouchure adjustment--to be in tune. Your 1936 Buffet is probably a good instrument and you just need to learn how to favor those notes that are a little bit outside of "in tune". Keep listening and learn to play your clarinet by "ear" and not by tuning meter.

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 Re: help!clarinet intonation
Author: Chris P 
Date:   2011-10-05 15:00

Check the barrel length which should be 66 or 67mm - anything shorter than that can cause intonation problems, especially if it's as short as 62mm which throws the whole scale out the window, particularly if the clarinet isn't designed for a barrel so short.

Even if it's the original barrel, it may have been shortened at the request of a previous owner at some point in time to 'cure' it from playing flat (which is usually down to the player and the set-up they use and very often not the fault of the instrument).

Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010

The opinions I express are my own.

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 Re: help!clarinet intonation
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2011-10-06 19:20

Make a nice lamp out of it. :-) On a more serious note, it could very well be a problem with the bore, that can be very difficult to fix and expensive. I would suggest that you try a few different length and different manufactures barrels to see if any of them make a difference. You could also try some different mouthpieces but I have a feeling you have a problem clarinet. It may have had those problems when it was new, or may have changed for the worse over time. ESP eddiesclarinet.com

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 Re: help!clarinet intonation
Author: pzh97 
Date:   2011-10-07 03:57

I have measured the barrel's length.It was 63mm.(haha,I don't need to throw it out of the window...)
The bore of the Upper point is 15mm.
By the way,what kind of barrel and mouthpiece should i use?
THANKS A LOT!

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 Re: help!clarinet intonation
Author: johng 2017
Date:   2011-10-07 13:22

Have you checked the condition of the upper tone holes? Are they clogged with lint and other gunk?

John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com

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