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Author: alanporter
Date: 2011-08-30 18:55
Is there a simple system of identifying each key by a number, such as key 1, key 2, key 3,etc, instead of the more involved names like key C#/G#, C/F, throat A, etc ?
tiaroa@shaw.ca
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2011-08-31 10:48
Since there are no answers to this yet I'll take a stab at an answer.
If there IS a 'system,' it would be up to all the participants to know THIS system to talk intelligently about specific keys. It would have to be some fancy system since there are standard Boehms out there but some have alternate left pinky keys, some use unique venting keys and then you have older systems with less keys in different spots and German keys that are altogether different as well.
Talking about the specific 12th on a specific horn is the most accurate way to approach the issue.
.......................Paul Aviles
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2011-08-31 10:57
When in doubt wether or not you're making yourself clear, you can still accompany your text with a "note smiley" so, as in "Throat A" (![[A4]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/a4.gif) ) etc.
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Ben
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2011-08-31 13:03
I think for the bulletin board, Ben's recommendation to use the "note smiley" works best. At the top of the threads is a link to "Smileys/Notes." Click on that excellent feature (thank you, Mark!) and it'll show how to enter the picture of the note on the staff, the way Ben's done it.
It would be great if everybody worldwide did agree on a consistent naming system for fingering charts, but several systems have evolved internationally over the generations. Different method books use charts that are different enough from each other to create confusion, and not all of us have access to all of the competing books. And as Paul Aviles points out, we're also playing clarinets with different key systems. For now, we're stuck with these inconsistencies, but at least our musical ancestors did finally agree on a common language of notation.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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Author: Jack Kissinger
Date: 2011-08-31 16:01
Ben and Lelia, If I understand the OP correctly, he's asking about the keys (that we press) on the clarinet, e.g., the right-side Bb trill key.
Alan, Jay Arnold has a form of what you are talking about in his Modern Fingering System. It is designed for a standard 17/6 Boehm clarinet. In summary:
Upper Joint:
Register - T
Thumb hole - X
Throat G# - H1
Throat A - H2
Left-Hand Tone Holes (top down) L1, L2, L3
Left Hand Eb/Bb - KL
C#/G# - 4
Trill Keys (Bottom - up) K2, K3, K4, K5
Lower Joint:
Right-Hand Tone Holes (top down) R1, R2, R3
Sliver Key - K1
Left-hand pinky cluster: 1L (F/C), 2 (F#/C#), 5 (E/B)
Right-hand pinky cluster: 1 (F/C), 3 (G#/Eb), 2R (F#/C#), 5R (E/B)
This works fine with his fingering charts (but he puts a key (as in a map key) on each page next to the charts. But which would you rather see for the primary fingering for D5 on a standard Boehm Bb clarinet:
T, X, L2, L3, R1, 3
or
RT oxx xoo (G#/Eb)
For me, the second is far more intuitive, and doesn't require that I have a chart at hand to refer to. Also, as Paul points out, it's easier to adapt to different model clarinets.
Best regards,
jnk
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Author: alanporter
Date: 2011-08-31 16:27
Thanks to you all. As usual, sensible and helpful answers !
Alan
tiaroa@shaw.ca
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