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Author: sonicbang
Date: 2011-07-06 17:44
I've used my 65mm barrel for 4 months and I recently need the 66mm because in Summer my instrument goes up a bit regarding intonation. My longer barrel's rings are loose now and I can easily remove them without forcing anything. I'm just curious what will happen if I would replace the metal rings to wooden ones. Anybody has any experience abouth this thing?
Post Edited (2011-07-06 17:47)
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Author: SteveG_CT
Date: 2011-07-06 18:00
I suppose you could fabricate wood rings to replace the metal ones if you wanted it to look different but I wouldn't recommend it. Your metal rings lossened because thewood in the barrel shrunk due to being exposed to low humidity. Imagine how much a problem you would have with loose rings if both the rings and the barrel expanded and shrunk in response to changes in humidity. You would likely see the rings loosen from smaller changes in humidity and you could end up with overly tight sockets if both the ring and barrel wood expanded. More trouble than I would wish to deal with. You'd be better off buying a custom barrel where the rings are an integral part.
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2011-07-06 18:29
Most techs can refit the rings easily.....they have ring shrinker presses, or they can refit your metal rings with simple thin paper shims (see a search on this BB).
I see no benefit to adding wooden rings (Others disagree), and of course, as my disclaimer indicates, you might want a new custom barrel.
Have you considered using tuning rings with the shorter barrel?
Disclaimer....I make and sell custom ringless barrels.
Allan
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: TJTG
Date: 2011-07-06 18:49
If you're worried about the rings being loose. Play on the barrel for a while and see if they tighten back up.
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Author: clarinettist1104
Date: 2011-07-06 19:14
I personally prefer my barrels without the rings on them... There is more "ring" in the sound (no pun intended). I had to put the rings back on all my barrels before college auditions so as to not appear crazy to my future teachers. =D
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2011-07-06 21:16
You risk the sockets splitting if you've got loose socket rings due to the outward pressure exerted from the tenon corks - and if you've got both socket rings loose on barrels (or if you've taken them off), the barrel can split down the entire length.
Far cheaper to get loose socket rings refitted so they're tight than it is to buy a new barrel (or lower joint or bell) if it splits.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2011-07-07 05:53
>> Most techs can refit the rings easily.....they have ring shrinker presses, or they can refit your metal rings with simple thin paper shims (see a search on this BB). <<
I think I already wrote about this before but having seen and tried both of these methods many times (using many types of shims) I prefer neither and instead prefer to glue the rings back. The type of glue is very important, I prefer shellac. For example, super glue and contact glue are terrible for this purpose. IME shellac is like a shim but unlike paper etc. it fills the exact gap plus the gluing, where the paper etc. might fill the gap unevenly and could actually create issues (e.g. very [too] tight in one area but without support at all in another).
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