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Author: HCR
Date: 2011-02-11 16:02
Attachment: Bach Chatelaine - 1.jpg (247k)
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I recently unearthed some sheet music from my distant youth, and I'd like to know more about it, having struck out on websites featuring sheet music, J.S. Bach, etc.
The title is "Chatelaine," a ring of keys; the piece on each of the two pages goes through all the keys, one after another -- wonderful fun to play. The first page says "Bass Clarinet," but I've always played both on soprano. At the bottom of the second page is my then-band director's source for the music: Selmer Bandwagon, vol. 19 (I tried to access an old copy of that volume but failed).
Can anyone tell me what Bach opus these pieces come from? Where I could get a fresher copy? And, better yet, whether Bach wrote more "chatelaines" for me to play with?
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Author: johng ★2017
Date: 2011-02-12 03:04
I tried the two pages as a duet with one of my students and it worked well. I would also be interested in finding the source of it, although I have my doubts about it being written by JS Bach. I found a few "Chatelaines" on Google, but nothing similar to this.
John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com
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Author: hrvanbeek
Date: 2011-02-12 14:18
I searched the Library of Congress website and came up with a few results for Selmer Bandwagon. Individual issues or volumes of periodicals weren't listed (at least that I can find) so it's hard to say whether volume 19 is there.
I'll be going there later this month. Maybe I can have a look.
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Author: HCR
Date: 2011-02-12 15:37
Thank you, hrvanbeek. L of C website was one of the first places I tried, but perhaps you'll have better luck in person. I wonder if the Conn-Selmer company has an archive? Does anyone know?
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Author: hrvanbeek
Date: 2011-03-01 12:06
Well, the other day I made it to the LOC in time to get my reader card but too late to request materials...
I will return though and investigate further!
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Author: HCR
Date: 2011-03-01 13:33
Thank you! Sounds as if you're having the kind luck I often have in libraries (being a scholar is my "day job"). Meanwhile, I'm getting the notes back into my aging fingers.
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Author: hrvanbeek
Date: 2011-05-27 23:48
Today I visited the LOC and found the Selmer Bandwagon issue (Vol. 9, No. 1, March 1961) containing the "Bach Chatelaines". I figured it would be connected to some article in the issue...but no, just there amongst the articles. A note on top of the 2nd page mentions "Selmer Educational Director Nilo Hovey recommends these as a cure for the over-confident sight reader" and offers "a free box of Maier clarinet reeds to the first 50 readers to send in the correct explanation of the title".
So, no idea if these are derived from any Bach work at all...or where they've come from.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2011-05-28 01:23
I got a copy of it in, I think, 1961. It sounds nothing like Bach, but it's nice music, and it's certainly a finger twister the first time through if you haven't learned your extreme-key scales. It's not too hard once you work it out.
A chatelaine was a chain that the chief housekeeper wore around her waist (or sometimes the housekeeper herself), holding all the keys and various other tools. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatelaine_%28chain%29. Since the piece goes around the circle of fifths, it's something like a chatelaine.
Ken Shaw
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Author: HCR
Date: 2011-05-28 01:28
Thank you for your persistent search, hrvanbeek. Ken Shaw, I hit the OED in college ca. 1963 and learned what the word meant -- so right! so appropriate! But you know much better than I do whether or not the piece actually sounds like Bach, in any permutation (I've always been an amateur). I tip my dunce cap to the both of you, and I still love to practice the thing. Wish there were more pieces "out there" like it -- or are there?
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2011-05-28 02:37
I found that when I was in college Peabody had little clarinet related music.
I was practicing sight reading and found myself playing a lot of Bach. I remember this piece and I still have the music, but sadly I wasn't able to get any info. There was a really great music store behind Peabody and this store called Teds Music had tons and tons of sheet music. I actually practiced cello and viola music, because of the assorted clefs. At that time I was dating a cello player and her sister played the viola! We had a lot of fun sight reading and writing arrangements. Almost all of the music was Bach.
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