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Author: ClarinetBeginner 
Date:   2010-11-15 01:21

I have recently found rhythm to be very challenging in a musical. Does anyone know of a method book that will help me improve my ability of playing complex rhythms?

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 Re: rhythm
Author: kdk 2017
Date:   2010-11-15 01:35

What is your level of technical accomplishment? Do you have any background on another instrument or as a vocalist? What do you mean by "in a musical?"

Karl

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 Re: rhythm
Author: ClarinetBeginner 
Date:   2010-11-15 01:54

im doubling on clarinet,alto, and flute in a local musical. some of the rhythms were very difficult. im looking for a rhythm method book.

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 Re: rhythm
Author: Bob Phillips 
Date:   2010-11-15 02:06

One thing that helps me is to
first slow down, and then
break every note into 1/16ths and then
tongue every 1/16th note.

Thus, a dotted 1/8th that comes on a downbeat is played as 3 1/16ths.
An 1/8th that occurs in the middle of a beat is played as the 2nd and 3rd 1/16ths of the beat.

After a surprisingly short amount of repetition, you'll have it.

Bob Phillips

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 Re: rhythm
Author: Jack Kissinger 
Date:   2010-11-15 02:58

12 Etudes De Rythme by Marcel Bitsch, published by Leduc.

Best regards,
jnk

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 Re: rhythm
Author: sonicbang 
Date:   2010-11-15 05:26

Bitsch etudes are not for beginner, at leat when played with proper tempo.
Jeanjean's etudes are complex and well built up methodically and from a pedagogical point of wiew.

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 Re: rhythm
Author: Gretchen 
Date:   2010-11-15 11:26

do you know any percussionists? Check out some of their rudiment books.

G

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 Re: rhythm
Author: Reedirect 
Date:   2010-11-15 12:36

have you tried this nice training site for rhythm patterns from the very easy ones up to complex patterns?

http://www.worldjazz.ch/rhythm_training.htm

Best
Jo



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 Re: rhythm
Author: jacoblikesmusic 
Date:   2010-11-16 02:03

I found that the worldjazz website that Jo mentioned to be most helpful.

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 Re: rhythm
Author: ClarinetBeginner 
Date:   2010-11-16 04:56

I went through the worldjazz online rhythm tutorial and it did help a lot. If only there was one geared more towards 16th note rests and rhythms...

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 Re: rhythm
Author: William 
Date:   2010-11-16 15:45

It may be of some consolation to you that most professional auditions are determined by the accuracy of the rhythmic performance rather than the intonational and technical components. Playing the *correct* rhythms musically is a challenge even for the most advanced player. And the way to become 'better' at rhythmic execution is best accomplished through experiance in listening and playing--as much as possible. It's not so much a matter of "what", but rather, "how much" and how intense. I think you are on the correct track and just need to keep it up. Subdivision and analysis all are valuable in helping you understand, but jumping in a playing is key to really "getting it".

What might be fun and helpful to you would be to pick up a set of drum sticks--Ludwig 5A's--and a practice pad (or piece of wood) and learn to play the basic drum rudiment and roll patterns. Paradiddles are especially fun to learn to perform "right". Learning how the different patterns feel--without having also to worry about fingerings and reeds--may actually be of great help to your clarinet, sax & flute skills. And you never know when you may be called upon to "double" on a percussion part. Good luck and have fun.



Post Edited (2010-11-16 18:48)

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 Re: rhythm
Author: johng 2017
Date:   2010-11-16 20:51

If the show has lots of jazz/syncopated rhythms, I like the "Treble Clef Rhythms Complete" by Charles Colin and Bugs Bower. It begins with basic syncopated short songs and gradually builds to complex rhythms. It is fun to play and my students like to sight read in it at their particular level. And with a name like Bugs Bower, how could you lose? Published by Charles Colins Music in New York.

John Gibson, Founder of JB Linear Music, www.music4woodwinds.com

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 Re: rhythm
Author: sdr 
Date:   2010-11-17 02:27

Bona's "Rhythmical Articulations"

-sdr

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