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 Re: Sad employment figure for PHDs
Author: Ed Palanker 
Date:   2010-10-26 19:00

Alex, I totally agree with you about graduate degrees in general.
I began at the Mannes School of Music in 1957 but I graduated from the Manhattan School of Music, now called college of music, in 1962 and got a job in the Halifax Nova Scotia Symphony right out of school, I was lucky. The next year I landed my present position in the Baltimore Symphony, it's my 48th year. Musicians keep their jobs forever unless they move up. My first year at Manhattan, or Mannes I can't remember, my tuition was, ready for this, $600 a year, I got a half scholarship, good thing too, my father drove a bread truck but they supported my dream. How much is tuition now? Of course I lived at home in the Bronx so I didn't have to pay room and board, they didn't even have facilities then anyway. Now most schools require that you live on campus for at least the first two years. That's 50 - 60K at most private schools, maybe even more by now. And to make matters worse almost every clarinet teacher in the country recruits to fill their studio. I understand that as long as they're honest with the student about their chances, or lack of them I should say. Far to many schools of music encouraging students to get a performance degree. Maybe most of them can become janitors too. I think I had a couple of dozen choices to choose from when I began college in 57, I bet there are now at least 100 or more schools of music that offer performance degrees in our colleges, university's and conservatories. Is there no end to this nightmare? Help? ESP

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Ed Palanker 2010-10-26 16:42 
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