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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2010-09-14 04:17
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I drilled a small hole on the mouthpiece to fit a screw.
Also,I used a small brass plate to ensure even pressure.
Please look at the attached pics.
Koo Young Chung
PS: This is not my favorite mp.
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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2010-09-14 04:40
It plays as good as my Bonade ligature as much as I can tell in one day's trial.
It started out as a fun project a few months ago ,but my first attempt didn't go very well ,because I used too small screw and didn't use brass plate.I wasn't happy with the result so I shelved the idea for long time,but I just wanted to try again to see how it goes.
With careful planning and a few improvements,I think I got what I hoped to achieve.
I may never drill on my best mouthpiece,but I think it's something to think about.
I would not say it plays better than Bonade but not any worse either on my limited try so far.
Koo Young
Post Edited (2010-09-14 04:54)
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Author: dansil
Date: 2010-09-14 07:46
hi Koo Young
I'm interested in your ingenious experiment but wonder if this is truly an advance. With a ligature you have the opportunity to make adjustments of position of the reed AND you help the keep the entire ligature industry viable.
Your experiment may just spell DOOM to the ligature industry! Although I suppose that ligature makers might just adapt by switching to making all sorts of plates and wingnuts (gold-plated, leather, wood, plastic, Delrin, etc).
Good luck, and keep us posted with your experiments.
Danny Silver
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Author: Barry Vincent
Date: 2010-09-14 09:08
Well ---------- how would you make the usual fine adjustments of the reed up or down if it has a bolt through it ?
Perhaps by making the hole in the reed slightly larger ?
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Author: clarnibass
Date: 2010-09-14 09:47
Can you explain any advantages?
I can see many disadvantages: Hassle to make the hole in each reed, also having to do it relatively accurately, much more hassle putting reeds on and off the mouthpiece, any risk for the mouthpiece cracking because of the hole, etc.
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2010-09-14 10:52
One more disadvantage: Cannot bring angle of clarinet down because device would tear up my chin.
................Paul Aviles
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Author: Koo Young Chung
Date: 2010-09-14 12:34
This is just a protype and a fun project.
I read so many liguture makers claimed that their ligature makes the best sound because their ligature does (xxxx) best.(fill in the blank)
You know there are a least twenty different designs or so on the matket.
This is my version of making a ligature which doesn't touch mp at all (so it must make the best sound using some makers' logic) and also poking fun at many commercial lig makers ridiculous claims.
Drilling (accurately) is a relatively easy job for anyone who has a small table drill.
Hard rubber doesn't split by drilling it.
Make the hole on reed slightly bigger then you can slide the reed up or down.(0.5 mm or so)
I think it would be easy to make it not to protrude too high.
Who knows? It might evolve to something useful rather than curiosity.
Post Edited (2010-09-14 13:43)
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Author: Old Geezer
Date: 2010-09-14 15:21
Really interesting...it would be great with one of BB's bent mouthpieces.
Your point is made...the absurd claims of mouthpiece and ligatulre makers need to be ridiculed!
Clarinet Redux
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2010-09-14 15:44
Drilling holes in my mouthpice, I don't think so. Drilling holes in my reeds, I don't think so. Not to mention one would have to drill a hole in all your reeds before you can try them out with the "ligature" on, or in this case, through. And of course, as mentioned already, you can't move the reed up, down, to one side or another if desired. Then there's always the problem of making sure the hole in "all" your reeds need to be exactly in the center. Other that those massive problems, I think it's a great idea, NOT. Happy drilling. ESP http://eddiesclarinet.com
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Author: Dori
Date: 2010-09-14 16:30
I give you lots of points for creativity, despite the practical problems.
However, in the broadest sense this IS a ligature as it is a devise to hold the reed on the mouthpiece. A shoestring, velcro strap, even a piece of tape are technically types of ligatures which serve the same purpose. Of course, some work better than others, or so people claim. You might make a fortune if you can convince those with GAS (Gear Aquisition Syndrome) that they must have one of these in their collection.
People probable thought Thomas Edison's early lightbulbs were mere curiosities, too. If nothing else, thanks for sharing a new idea.
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Author: Bob Bernardo
Date: 2010-09-14 16:51
It has to effect the facing of the mouthpiece. Perhaps it is OK now, but maybe not...
Over time this device has to warp the facing.
Interesting idea, but I wouldn't try this..never, never, never. Well not on my really great mouthpiece, but perhaps an old Bundy or something.
Interesting concept.
Designer of - Vintage 1940 Cicero Mouthpieces and the La Vecchia mouthpieces
Yamaha Artist 2015
Post Edited (2010-09-15 02:31)
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Author: Paul Aviles
Date: 2010-09-14 16:58
Hey, I have a variation that might be a bit more workable.
Place two holes parallel to the table (ok maybe three). Two of the holes would be for a wire and the third for the turning mechanism. Of course you'd have to work out the details, and it wouldn't clamp down the reed nearly as well but it would not require any holes in the reeds either.
Just a thought.
.....................Paul Aviles
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Author: sfalexi
Date: 2010-09-14 23:29
Awesome experiment! Keep it up. Hell, for all we know he could get some good ideas from here, refine them, and be running to the patent office in weeks! Next thing you know, with some smart marketing, there'll be a new gadget on the block and someone's got some nice extra income!
Alexi
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Author: kilo
Date: 2010-09-15 09:02
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Then there's always the problem of making sure the hole in "all" your reeds need to be exactly in the center.
Not really a big problem if you some elementary knowledge of woodworking tools, it's not hard to build a jig to accomplish this.
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Over time this device has to warp the facing.
Why? What force is being exerted which would warp the facing?
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Author: BobD
Date: 2010-09-15 11:56
I admire your courage and willingness to experiment .......
Bob Draznik
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Author: Ed
Date: 2010-09-15 13:19
Let me guess, your next ligature invention will be..........superglue??
![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
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Author: NBeaty
Date: 2010-09-16 02:47
Most everyone here has been too quick to criticize and make fun of the OP. Has no one here ever had a thought of their own about how to make a piece of equipment better?
The OP actually went through with a thought and put it into practice. It may not end up working, but it may spawn another idea. Maybe that one won't work either, maybe it will. Maybe 10 ideas down the line the OP could have something really special.
"Intellectual curiosity" apparently is lost on most of you.
Quite frankly, I'd probably prefer this ligature's feel and response better than most of the fabric\leather\heavy "cut out vibration and high overtones because they're scary" ligatures being used by many these days.
The best idea in the world? Perhaps not. Worthy of at least an ounce of respect? Sure.
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Author: MarlboroughMan
Date: 2010-09-16 12:16
There's a difference between making fun and joining a joke. I think the OP has a sense of humor.
In one post on this thread he wrote:
"This is my version of making a ligature which doesn't touch mp at all (so it must make the best sound using some makers' logic) and also poking fun at many commercial lig makers ridiculous claims."
So I once again say GREAT idea: send me a German prototype when you're ready (and some Legere "Koo Young Chung/German" model reeds)!!!
(If the OP isn't laughing right now, my sincere apologies.)
******************************
The Jazz Clarinet
http://thejazzclarinet.blogspot.com/
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Author: Ed
Date: 2010-09-16 12:28
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"Intellectual curiosity" apparently is lost on most of you.
Nah, I wouldn't say that. Some people have a sense of humor and are having a little fun. I am sure that the OP would expect that as it is a pretty radical idea.
I respect anyone who tries something new.
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