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Author: srattle  
Date:   2010-07-13 12:25 
 Hi everyone,  
 
I'm in a desperate search for a bass clarinet in Berlin (french system) 
I need it in September and have until now come up short.  
 
Does anyone have any leads? 
 
it would be great appreciated! 
Sacha
  
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Author: srattle  
Date:   2010-07-13 13:04 
 oh sorry,  
 
best case to borrow, but I will also happily rent one if possible.  
 
I have already tried the main woodwind store here (die holzblaeser) and the only instrument they have to rent is a low Eb, plastic student yamaha. . .which sounds a little like a Sax, and doesn't quite meet my needs for Pierrot Lunaire. . .
  
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Author: Ed Palanker  
Date:   2010-07-13 16:50 
 France and England are just a short trip away.  ESP   http://eddiesclarinet.com
  
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Author: donald  
Date:   2010-07-13 20:48 
 If this is at all helpful, I am fairly sure the Pierrot Lunaire part doesn't need a low C bass (I'm not trying to persuade to use the Yamaha student bass though). 
dn
  
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Author: srattle  
Date:   2010-07-13 23:48 
 The low C is not the problem, the student, and plastic parts are. . . 
 
And you're right, Pierrot doesn't go below Eb.  
 
Ed, are you suggesting that I travel to England or France to rent a bass clarinet? Seems a little excessive. . .it might be what I have to do in the end, but it might take my whole fee for the concert. . .
  
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Author: howarth  
Date:   2010-07-14 13:19 
 If you contact us at Howarths we should be able to point in the right direction, or help directly.   
 
If that is helpful for you, our number is: 
+44 20 7935 2407.  
Ask to speak to Donny or Andy 
 
Best Wishes, 
 
Howarth of London 
Clarinet Department 
 
Howarth of London 
31-35 Chiltern Street 
London 
W1U 7PN 
clarinet@howarth.uk.com 
www.howarth.uk.com
  
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Author: Ed Palanker  
Date:   2010-07-14 15:47 
 I guess it may seem like going to France or England to rent a bass clarinet would be a bit much but you could have a nice few days vacation too.  I agree, you don't need a low C bass and it's possible that one of the students basses might play well enough to play the part with a good mouthpiece and reed.  I recall many years ago that I heard that the bass player back then in the NY ballet orchestra used a Bundy bass clarinet.  Although I'm not recommending this because I would never do it, I don't have too, some players have played the "high" bass clarinet parts on the clarinet an octave lower. Something that could at least be considered if you end up with a student model that does not have a decent high register or is out of tune up there.  It's at least an option. ESP
  
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Author: tictactux ★2017 
Date:   2010-07-14 16:31 
 I play my concerts on a Artley (Bundy clone) all the time. Okay, I'm not a soloist, and I rarely go higher than the upper clarion C. 
One should not dismiss an instrument just because it is classified student-ish and made from plastic, at least not without having at least tried it. 
Or as Bocuse once put it - a good chef can prepare a decent meal from whatever is in the fridge or in the house, without first running to some posh market and buy all sorts of deli stuff. 
 
But I'm not a pro, and my requirements are somewhat modest. 
 
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Ben
  
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Author: David Spiegelthal ★2017 
Date:   2010-07-14 18:35 
 I'd bragged in another thread about having played the Weber 2nd Concerto on bass clarinet for my high school state solo festivals about three millennia ago --- I did that on a Vito plastic bass clarinet, and you may recall the piece starts on an altissimo F..........So I'd agree with Ben and Ed, a decent player can get by without having the absolute best equipment.
  
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Author: srattle  
Date:   2010-07-14 21:58 
 I can play very comfortably this Yamaha plastic bass. I've played it before. The problem is that it sounds like a sax, and I will be playing it a very prestigious venue, with a very prestigious ensemble and have to sound my best. If this was a small gig somewhere I would be more willing to rent what they have hear, but I need something very fine. 
 
If a professional musician here would happily play a bad student instrument for a big concert, I would love to hear how they managed, but I am not a high school student, nor would I call myself an amateur.  
 
If you have ideas on where I could find a professional instrument to borrow, let me know.  
 
thanks 'howarth' I will try contacting in the next days! 
 
Sacha
  
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Author: cigleris  
Date:   2010-07-14 23:11 
 Sacha, 
 
Do you not know any fellow player or professional that would be willing to lend you an instrument. If it's a prestigious ensemble and venue then you need to get a bass that fills the requirements.  
 
I've played Pierrot many times and you need a good bass to deal with the leaps that abound in the piece. The bass part is no walk over, neither is the clarinet part for that matter. 
 
Peter Cigleris
  
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Author: srattle  
Date:   2010-07-15 06:13 
 Peter: 
The trouble with Germany, is that everyone I know here who has a bass clarinet, as a German Bass, and on almost anything else I would be willing to learn enough of the system to be able to play the part, but Pierrot is a beast, and I can't take that risk.  
 
I've also played Pierrot many times, and the Bass parts are really a struggle if the instrument doesn't play nice.
  
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Author: Alphie  
Date:   2010-07-16 08:29 
 Alexander Bader of the Berlin Phil told me once that he prefers the Buffet bass before the German dito. Maybe he has connections? You probably know him already. 
 
Alphie
  
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