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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2010-01-01 01:44
I have to have Heart Bypass (who's counting.. Surgery in the upcoming week or two.
How long have you guys out there who have had it did it take to be able to play clarinet again?
I'm 46 so pretty young to have it, but it's a lot better than a fatal heart attack as I'm 100% blocked in one of the major arteries. Fortunately my heart did it's own bypass (created a collaterol artery).
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Author: knotty
Date: 2010-01-01 01:48
Sorry to hear that, but you'll sail though it, surgeons have the technique down good. Get well soon!
~ Musical Progress: None ~
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Author: Ed
Date: 2010-01-01 01:58
Best wishes to you! I hope for a successful procedure and speedy recovery.
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Author: Mark Charette
Date: 2010-01-01 02:15
DavidBlumberg wrote:
> Like changing the spark plugs in a car - except it costs like a
> Lambo, and they have to saw open the hood to get to the plugs.
>
Sounds like a Fiat 124 I had once - you had to pull the motor to change the #4 plug ...
Good luck!
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Author: L. Omar Henderson
Date: 2010-01-01 02:31
David - best of luck with your surgeons, bypass is now a stroll in the park for them. This year has cost me - well insurance company - $1.2M for replacement parts and rearranging those existing but all is well and I wish you the same good luck. Mark C indicated for me that it was just the 100,000 mile normal overhaul and refurbishment - yours is at 75K check up and minor servicing.
L. Omar Henderson
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Author: knotty
Date: 2010-01-01 03:05
David, I heard after the surgery, you will probably feel a lot better because of the increased circulation, that may be something to look forward to.
~ Musical Progress: None ~
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Author: Wayne
Date: 2010-01-01 04:46
From my first episode of chest pain to surgery (triple) was just a few weeks. Had mine when I was 51, April of '08. The surgeon told me they often find these things during autopsy so I stopped negotiating with the doctors : )
The main artery into my heart was almost completely clogged. The entire episode still seems surreal ! From surgery to full out playing took me about three or four months and I was certainly " playing " the clarinet before that. They had me doing lots of pulmonary work in the hospital and afterwards. I lost 20 pounds, started playing tennis again and feel better than I have in years. Give yourself lots of rest afterwards but really, they have every aspect of this surgery down pat.
Your going to find out how good you can feel. Good luck and good health to everyone in 2010 !
W
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Author: marcia
Date: 2010-01-01 05:59
We've seen double lip, single lip, and now none lip!
Happy New Year to all.
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Author: Wes
Date: 2010-01-01 07:15
Good wishes to you, David. It will all work out fine.
My good friend, Darrell Mettler, had hiatal hernia open chest surgery recently because his stomach had moved up near his lungs. He waited less than two months to resume playing and plays as fine as ever. Good Luck!
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Author: chris moffatt
Date: 2010-01-01 10:26
David: it depends if they can do robotic surgery or have to crack your chest open. If robotic, recovery time is much shorter. If they have to open you up, they'll wire your sternum back together and tell you not to do much for at least six weeks - however they might encourage you to play as soon as possible because they want you to breathe and exercise your lungs. I'm thinking after a month you'll feel like it's time to get back to it and you'll be able to at least for short practice times. BTW this surgery is definitely not a walk in the park for the patient, expect to not feel like doing much for 2-3 weeks - but just go with the flow and you'll get through it just fine. And you will feel way better after it's done.
BTW I had a quadruple open chest bypass in 2005 so been there done that!
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2010-01-01 14:41
Good luck David. Come back on the board ASAP to let us know how it goes.
When my mother had a heart attack 30 years ago, the doctors said that the growth of collateral circulation meant that they did not have to work on that artery, since its function was already replaced. I have no idea about the current state of the art.
The physical development of your breathing apparatus will certainly give you a reserve that will stand you in good stead.
We need you here.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Alseg
Date: 2010-01-01 15:07
Best wishes.
Tell them to put corks on the uppers .
(Cost of a Lamborghini, huh? Betcha most of that is liability prevention.)
Former creator of CUSTOM CLARINET TUNING BARRELS by DR. ALLAN SEGAL
-Where the Sound Matters Most(tm)-
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Author: Sylvain
Date: 2010-01-01 15:46
David:
All the best to you and a speedy recovery for many many more years of clarinet playing...
Sylvain
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Sylvain Bouix <sbouix@gmail.com>
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Author: Ed Palanker
Date: 2010-01-01 15:55
I hope you have a complete and quick recovery Dave. I suggest you start back small, you know, maybe on Eb first, then a Bb, to an A to an alto, or basset horn, then to a bass clarinet. You don't want to take anything to quickly you know. I would not suggest you even try to pick up a contra for a long time, don't want to strain yourself you know. Good luck with changing your "spark plugs". ESP
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Author: Don Berger
Date: 2010-01-01 17:02
Have no concern, Dave, for your young years, I'd predict you will feel like playing again in about 3 weeks, perhaps briefly. I had several heart artery partial blockages in my early 80's, with a "four by Dr Fore" Tulsa in '84. The first week was a bit tough, but after the 2nd week, I felt good enough to drive home [from our daughter's home] and resumed light playing. Interesting, your heart artery "repair", my wife had the same report recently from cardio exam, postponing [our ages are 90] surgery, but with more medication. A while on back, having irregular heart beating, I had a cardioversion [electric shock?] and ole ticker is back in rhythm, sure feel better. Best Wishes, Don
Thanx, Mark, Don
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Author: duxburyclarinetguy
Date: 2010-01-01 18:38
Good luck! My dad had triple bypass surgery about 15 years when he was about 70. Thankfully he is still around. I am sure with your youth and the advances in techniques and knowledge in general, you will be back soon and better than you can imagine. Best wishes, Rick.
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Author: Arnoldstang
Date: 2010-01-01 18:57
All the best, Dave. You've got many more years of great Clarinet BB posts left in you. John Price
Freelance woodwind performer
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Author: weberfan
Date: 2010-01-01 19:07
David,
All good wishes for a speedy recovery and a return to music. And please let us know soonest when you're up and feeling chipper.
Chuck
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Author: BobD
Date: 2010-01-01 21:28
Will be pulling for you, Blummy......
Bob Draznik
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Author: Caroline Smale
Date: 2010-01-01 21:47
My stand partner for several years, age 75, had quadrupal bypass surgery last July. He didn't feel like playing for at least 6/8 weeks primarily due to pain of the major upper chest surgery rather than the heart itself. However after 3 months was happiliy doing 1 hour playing a day and now hopes to be back on the first stand in next few weeks.
So knocking off about 30 years I would expect you to get there very much faster.
Best wishes for the op...
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Author: Joseph Brenner, Jr.
Date: 2010-01-01 22:35
My very best wishes to you for pain-free, infection-free recovery, and a no-holds barred diet post surgery. Now...just in case cardiologists and cardiac surgeons participate in forumns like this one, please direct your doctors to settle on a course of action before setting foot in the operating room. There must be no debate, while treating you, about: whether a metal scalpel blade is preferable to a carbon fiber blade, whether beginning to slice your chest two inches above or two inches below, two inches left or two inches right is preferable; whether ligation with fabric or plastic or string or metal improves blood flow; whether using a short or long graft generates better blood vessel tone; whether gold or black or silver or red or green sutures better promote heart rhythm; whether the first independent act of the orderly or the anesthesiologist or the surgeon constitutes an eingang; whether an operating table made of rosewood, grenadilla, silver, gold, plastic, ebonite, resonite, lucite, steel, copper or glass, gives best support to the body and best supports sustenance of stable temperature; and whether lubrication of any graft is required, and, if so, what lubricant is optimal, and whether Dr Omar Henderson is a preferred provider.
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Author: Chris Hill
Date: 2010-01-02 03:56
Hi Dave,
Too bad you're not a conductor-I hear they don't even have a heart!
Best wishes, my friend- I'll pray for you.
Chris
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Author: Snowy
Date: 2010-01-02 04:36
And very best wishes for speedy recovery from down under in Oz.
Snowy- lung cancer surgery survivor.
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Author: leonardA
Date: 2010-01-02 16:00
David, I don't know you, but feel as though I do because I have njoyed and learned from your posts on the board for years. Best of luck, and I know you will keep us posted on your progress.
Leonard
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Author: mrn
Date: 2010-01-02 17:56
Best wishes for a speedy recovery!
Mike Nichols
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Author: PeterPC
Date: 2010-01-02 18:43
Wishing you a quick recovery and many, many clarinet years !
Peter de Nijs
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Author: Joarkh
Date: 2010-01-02 19:07
Get well soon! Your posts are much appreciated.
Joar
Clarinet and saxophone teacher, clarinet freelancer
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Author: Mike Hancock
Date: 2010-01-02 20:17
Hello David . . .
I, too, have always enjoyed your posts and wish you well on your upcoming surgery.
And here is my recent experience. My surgery was a quintuple bypass done on October 14th this year. My symptoms occurred late in September and I chose to stop playing clarinet at that time. Post surgery, I pestered doctors about when I could return to playing but I got no really helpful
answers. I didn't really fell like doing much of anything for about two weeks anyway (the first in hospital and the second at home). On my own, I went back to practicing and playing in mid November in preparation for a lesson on December 4th. Obviously, with a lay off of more than six weeks, and the stress of major surgery, my initial practice times were only 15 to 20 minutes each. Nonetheless, what joy to be able to "make music" again.
FWIW . . . I am 73, Started playing clarinet in 5th grade, played off and on for many years after college, and returned to lessons ten years ago. I play 3rd Clarinet or Alto Clarinet in a community band.
Best wishes, and e-mail offline if you have any questions . . .
Mike Hancock
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Author: William
Date: 2010-01-02 21:55
Best wishes, Blummey. At least, YOU have good reason to stay away from the agony stick for a while. Most of us--in particular, me--just procratinate. Listen to all your cardo's, take care of your new plumbing and make your return to clarinetistry timely and healthful--I'm pull'n for ya, kid.
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Author: Wicked Good ★2017
Date: 2010-01-02 23:13
Be well, man. Let us know how your recovery goes.
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2010-01-03 01:21
Hard part is not knowing just when yet it's going to be. Though they felt that I was stable enough to wait till Jan 6 for the Surgeon's consult.
I'll be teaching this week, which will be good for my students to see that I don't have one foot in the grave.
I do feel good which I almost feel guilty for not exercizing this week - almost that is.....
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Author: timw
Date: 2010-01-03 14:09
Best wishes for a speedy and totally successful recovery .
Tim W
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Author: tictactux ★2017
Date: 2010-01-03 15:22
David,
all the best for the upcoming overhaul - I'm crossing all my fingers.
Don't rush things afterwards, good things take their time.
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Ben
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2010-01-03 16:04
My one surgical experience was for a different reason (biliary pancreatitis), but I did learn one thing in 45 days in the hospital that probably applies to most medical experiences: A major factor in getting healthy again is knowing when to tell the doctor to go eat some cork grease. Best wishes for great results and a fast recovery!
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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Author: DougR
Date: 2010-01-03 17:16
Hey David--
I seem to remember when my mother had a quadruple (some years ago) she scored some breathing toys from the inhalation-therapy people. You know, those plastic appliances with 3 chambers and a mouth tube and some ping-pong balls that you're supposed to keep suspended in the air? I figure you could probably show the inhalation therapists a thing or 2 about breathing, but if you act all stupid and "huh?" maybe they'll lay enough breathing toys on you for yourself & a couple of students!
Seriously, hope all goes extremely well & you're back to posting (and playing) in no time.
Doug R
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Author: mrn
Date: 2010-01-03 17:39
Little bit of medical/clarinet trivia:
Many of you (especially if you come from my hometown of Houston) probably know that Dr. Michael DeBakey performed the first successful coronary artery bypass graft in the 1960s. While still a medical student, he invented the roller pump that eventually made open heart surgery (of any kind) possible.
What you may not know is that he also played the clarinet. He started out as a saxophone player, but when he went to college and medical school at Tulane U., he wanted to play in the symphony and they told him they wouldn't take him as a saxophonist. So, over the course of 3 months, he taught himself to play the clarinet and won his symphony audition. He apparently played with them for 4 years.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25709838/
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Author: justme
Date: 2010-01-03 19:01
David said: " Thanks all! It's the whole Clarinet Brotherhood."
Don't forget the sax community.
You're one of the great sax teachers out there judging from the results of many of your students.
So you have the sax community pulling for you as well!
Take care
Just Me
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Author: FDF
Date: 2010-01-03 22:37
David,
My heart attack was two years ago, and I'm still trying to get the high notes.
Your posts are very informative, and I've appreciated your knowledge.
Friends who've had the bypass are still blowing too, and quite soon after the procedure.
Best of luck,
Forest
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Author: crampy
Date: 2010-01-04 00:33
All the best David.
My thoughts are with you. Best wishes for your speedy and complete recovery
:)
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Author: Ron
Date: 2010-01-04 09:42
David,
Good luck with the surgery. This is a "routine" operation these days. Best wishes for a smooth recovery and no complications. Take care.
Ron Penn
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Author: grenadilla428
Date: 2010-01-04 14:36
I hope the procedure goes smoothly and that you're back to playing soon. Don't push too hard... you're a valuable contributor and we want you back on the BBoard ASAP! All the best to you and prayers for a safe and speedy recovery.
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Author: David Niethamer
Date: 2010-01-04 16:57
David B wrote:
> I almost feel guilty for not exercizing this week - almost that is.....
try 12 oz. curls! Breakfast of Champions!!
David
niethamer@aol.com
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Author: leigthom
Date: 2010-01-04 20:34
Hello David.
Good luck with the operation.
I had to have an urgent quadruple bypass 5 years ago in July. Six weeks after the operation, inspite of a collapsed lung and a bout of pneumonia, I was allowed to drive and play recorder, then play flute, then sax and clarinet and finally oboe and bassoon. I played my first concert on oboe at the beginning of September with no ill effects.
I've been playing regularly since then and I'm fast approaching 66!
Best wishes
Leigh
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Author: clarinetguy ★2017
Date: 2010-01-06 02:46
We're all pulling for you, David!
I know this is much easier said than done, but after your surgery, take some time for yourself. Relax. So many of us are constantly rushing around, trying to make it in the big rate race, that we ignore our own health.
All the best to you!
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2010-01-14 20:42
They are going to have to take the artery/vein from my forearm - not leg nor chest.
Side effect is that the hand won't have much coordination for a while, possibly a year.......
Hmmm, it's better than dead though.
Hope it works out! I've always had technique to burn, but this will certainly challenge that one.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2010-01-14 20:49
If you tell them about your need to have forearm strength and flexibility to make a living, perhaps they can find a different vessel to use. Just a thought.
Ken Shaw
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2010-01-15 18:53
David, I shut up after you said you didn't want to question the experts, because I didn't want to be undermining and because, up to a point, I agree with you. It's better to be optimistic. It's better to trust experts. But I think Ken Shaw's got it right, too:
>>If you tell them about your need to have forearm strength and flexibility to make a living, perhaps they can find a different vessel to use. Just a thought.
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Do the docs understand that you're a professional clarinet player? Do they understand anything whatsoever about how a clarinet works? (Do they give half a squeak?)
I now deeply regret that I trusted, acted the model "patient" (a word I refuse to use any more, because it's demeaning, designed to keep us "compliant" and meekly in our place: no, we're *customers*) and I didn't raise questions when I was in the hospital 12 years ago. Without going into the whole organ recital.... Mistakes were made.
If I ever have to go back to the hospital again, I intend to question. If something doesn't make sense to me, then I intend to say NO. If that makes me the customer from hell, tough kishkas. You don't have to meekly follow along with everything some arrogant expert want to do to you.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2010-01-15 19:11
First thing I said to him was that I was a Clarinetist - before he checked me out to determine which to use.
And I told him that I've had significant tendonitis problems (unrelated to Clarinet) too.
I'm far from meek, but it is what it is - diabetes makes it that way and is why the arm is the one of choice.
Back in High School I had to perform the Weber Concerto #2 without a bit of feeling in my left pinky except tingling - it went fine.
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Author: Franklin Liao
Date: 2010-01-16 00:57
First of all, I hope that all will go well for you David. It's nice to see your posts and being being so upfront about all sorts of matters.
I think that for things that involve opening up our bodies, we should at least do our research/homework, so we can cry about what goes and what doesn't. As such, I actually share Leila's sentiments about taking artery/vein from your arm.
Anyways, here's to a speedy recovery!
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2010-01-16 11:44
David, from what I know from people who had heart bypass surgery is it definitely improved their health afterwards by a considerable amount.
A sax player who had a triple bypass at around 70 was like a kid again - after the surgery he was buying new instruments, having his house redecorated, new cars, played more golf and all manner of things as he intended to enjoy life.
A friend of mine whose dad had a bypass said she could tell how much he improved after surgery - she said he looked tired and old before and now looks a lot younger and the colour has come back into his face.
A trumpet player has also had heart bypass surgery and is starting to get back into playing again. Several years back he also had a stroke and packed in playing for a while. Only when he started playing again he began to look more healthy and he too went on a buying spree as everytime I see him he's gone out and bought himself new trumpet.
So I hope the surgery all goes well for you and hope you will notice the benefits afterwards. Take time to recover and don't rush things - you'll have time to do that when you fully recover.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2010-01-16 19:49
Maybe we can convince Legere to start making artificial coronary arteries. ![[grin]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smilie5.gif)
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2010-01-16 22:23
On Monday - a major clarinet "person" in Philadelphia is having a 7 way bypass.
I won't say who, but his name is mentioned here often.
Mine actually might be a 7 as it's 3 majors, and 4 branches - I was told "they will do what they can in the time that they have".
Hmm, kinda sounds more like the "time that I have".......
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2010-01-19 13:24
Dave -
Keeping my fingers, legs and eyes crossed.
Ken Shaw
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Author: rvazquez
Date: 2010-01-19 15:40
Hey Dave:
I somehow missed this posting. I felt like a moron asking you about it yesterday. I pray for a surgery without complications and quick recovery.
Ron V
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Ronald V. Vazquez
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Author: FDF
Date: 2010-01-21 01:03
Or is it the Tin Man from the Wizard of OZ?
Congratulations! Good to know all went well.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2010-01-21 11:19
Someone else I know said immediately after her dad had his bypass surgery done he felt like he'd been driven over by a Chieftan tank.
Here's to a good recovery!
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Ryan25
Date: 2010-01-21 13:29
Here's to a healthier you in 2010. Congrats on the successful surgery and best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Ryan
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2010-01-22 13:33
>>I well, feel more like Frankenstein.....
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Oh, if Dr. Frankenstein did the surgery, you should do fine. He's excellent at installing replacement parts and he's got a reputation for keeping his customers alive! Alive! And his nurse, Igor, is one of the most diligent. You can ask him to guard the door and keep certain other doctors out. For instance, if the abominable Dr. Phibes invites you to join his orchestra, that's probably not the best rehab gig.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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Author: clarinetcase
Date: 2010-01-24 18:48
and Igor also handle those parents and students with torches and clubs storming the hospital visitors lounge - "shocking as it may sound".
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Author: Franklin Liao
Date: 2010-01-25 11:40
Yay! Hope you can get back to your normal soon... whatever your normal is!
(Dr.Frankenstein might unleash the monster in you, now that I think about it...)
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2010-01-25 12:05
Yesterday I almost died from a medication that I was given - nurse hadn't seen that reaction before, but surgeon sure had. I have apnea - they put a new mask on me as with the tube in my nose to stomach my own mask didn't fit.
THEY (my wife actually - guess it was her hail Mary attempt on me FORGOT TO TURN ON MY CPAP UNIT with me trapped in it.
I had to realize that about 20 sec into the crisis as I was zero comprehension at that point.
That scared everyone LOT.
Right before I lost it u had been looking up the drugs black box issues.
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Author: Franklin Liao
Date: 2010-01-25 12:12
Is the said pencil made of plastic, grenadilla, some sort of recycled wood composite or other material? What's the bore size if it's an automatic?
Post Edited (2010-01-25 12:13)
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Author: Lelia Loban ★2017
Date: 2010-01-25 12:54
And do you recommend oiling the pencil?
Glad you survived the medication whoopsie. You might want to tell Igor that, if Dr. Moreau shows up with a new drug, block the door. Also Dr. X, Dr. No, Dr. Giggles, Dr. Faustus, Dr. Terror, Dr. Mabuse, Dr. Sardonicus, Dr. Jekyll (if he's still using), Dr. Blood, Dr. Mordrid, Dr. Goldfoot, Dr. Morbius, Dr. Strangelove and, of course, the curious Dr. Humpp.
Lelia
http://www.scoreexchange.com/profiles/Lelia_Loban
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2010-01-25 13:52
If your graphite instrument is sharp, can you pull out a bit, or will it need a new, custom barrel?
Dr. Segal.....calling Dr. Segal....
Jeff
“Everyone discovers their own way of destroying themselves, and some people choose the clarinet.” Kalman Opperman, 1919-2010
"A drummer is a musician's best friend."
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Author: redwine
Date: 2010-01-27 12:27
Hello,
Sorry to have missed all of this. I hope you are well, Dave. My dad had the surgery last year and he's doing great now! Best of luck.
Ben Redwine, DMA
owner, RJ Music Group
Assistant Professor, The Catholic University of America
Selmer Paris artist
www.rjmusicgroup.com
www.redwinejazz.com
www.reedwizard.com
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Author: DavidBlumberg
Date: 2010-01-29 15:45
I just played the Infernal Dance Firebird with SmartMusic -putting it on Youtube right now. Video taped it with my iphone so the sound isn't good - no quality, but it's pretty cool anyway. I'm so out of shape...
I still have pretty bad carpal tunnel syndrome in my right hand (it's quite tingly) from the IV line. That did a real number on it.
Left hand is the one with poor blood supply from the Radial Artery being taken.
FUN
http://www.SkypeClarinetLessons.com
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Author: Brenda ★2017
Date: 2010-01-30 16:32
It's so exciting to get back in the saddle again after something so challenging, and then find that you can still do it! Each time should be easier. Fortunately you're happy with small steps forward.. small steps add up to very large progress with time.
Thanks for your note about i-Tunes.
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