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Author: BentoBandito09
Date: 2009-12-30 14:40
I have spent the last few days searching for a decent clarinet.
When I started I found a beautiful rosewood one on "clasified", as i kept searching everything was telling me not to buy on "clasified" or any other internet site unless it had a rock solid return policy. So I kept looking and found only one other rosewood clarinet but the brand Cecilio was a cheap chinese company.
But in each instance I loved the look of the rosewood one and some places said they sound nice but the companies that make them are horible so each key is always out of tune with the others.
So I guess what i'm asking is, are there any reputable companies that make well tuned rosewood clarinets?
(I'm looking for an Intermediate level rosewood clarinet from a well known company that could easly be fixed around preferable below 1k)
Post Edited (2009-12-30 16:22)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-12-30 14:52
Rossi, Leblanc and Howarth all make (or have made) pro level rosewood clarinets - and they command pro level prices.
There's no reason for a rosewood clarinet to be out of tune in comparison to its blackwood counterpart - rosewood isn't as dense as blackwood, but it still makes for a class instrument.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: Molloy
Date: 2009-12-30 15:41
[Rossi, Leblanc and Howarth all make (or have made) pro level rosewood clarinets - and they command pro level prices.]
Also Patricola. I have a rosewood Patricola eefer. It needed some fairly major keywork adjustments when I got it new (left-hand pinky keys would get jammed competing for the same space) and it's fussy about mouthpieces (weird intonation issues with some but very accurate pitch with Vandoren), but it sounds and performs very nicely. I think you can get a new Patricola for just north of $2K.
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Author: BentoBandito09
Date: 2009-12-30 16:01
Thank you for commenting.
I was told that the keys were out of tune on another instrument and that all the others this person had tried of that brand were out of tune as well and that each key not just a couple was out of tune with the others.
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-12-30 16:24
Keep a lookout for a used Leblanc Symphonie 7 or similar rosewood Leblanc (some were stamped 'Opus' but the Opus is normally a blackwood instrument).
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: BentoBandito09
Date: 2009-12-30 16:36
As a note I would like to say that the clarinet from "clasified" is a Venus so right off the bat I looked for information about them and it wasn't good. (It didn't even say what the details like the - yamaha ycl-450 - for all I knew it was a - Venus pos-666. The cecilio on the other hand is a - Cecilio 3Series CT-380 Intermediate Rosewood B Flat Clarinet and lots of people said that most of thier instruments were not very good. (but not necessarily that specific one)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-12-30 16:52
Venus - Cecilio - Sterling - Mayflower - Mirage - etc. basically ALL the new rosewood clarinets you'll see on eBay or searching "rosewood clarinet" for around $700 are the same thing, and you're best saving your money.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: BentoBandito09
Date: 2009-12-30 17:49
Thanks for the advice GBK but, not to sound rude, I have already seen your list of questionable clarinets.
I looked for a little while for that lablanc symphonie 7 but haven't been able to find one for sale, but the pictures of it look beautiful.
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Author: djphay
Date: 2009-12-30 18:13
Hanson Clarinet Company in England make rosewood instruments too.
http://www.hansonclarinets.com/Hanson_Clarinet_Company._Making_Music_in_Great_Britain./Home.html
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2009-12-30 19:06
Be careful not to mistake an old Pan American "propellor wood" clarinet for rosewood. They had a beautiful tiger stripe, but were dreadful instruments. The surface was a plastic laminate that usually came loose, and the stripes wore off those that remained intact.
If you see an off-brand clarinet, particularly from China, RUN AWAY. GBK's list of Questionable Quality is, if anything, overly generous to these CSOs (Clarinet-Shaped Objects).
A clarinet made of real rosewood will be a top-of-the-line model and cost several thousand dollars. For $700, you get junk, fit only to hang on the wall or make into a lamp. For decoration, a Cecilio is fine. For playing the clarinet, get a plastic instrument from Buffet, Leblanc, Selmer or Yamaha and go to work.
Ken Shaw
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Author: BentoBandito09
Date: 2009-12-30 19:38
I have decided i will get a clarinet from Hanson company their BTR clarinets look just as nice as the rosewood so now i have another tough decision. [:D]
I strongly advise anyone looking for a wood clarinet to check them out.Ken Shaw wrote:
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Author: BentoBandito09
Date: 2009-12-30 19:39
I have decided i will get a clarinet from Hanson company their BTR clarinets look just as nice as the rosewood so now i have another tough decision. [grinn]
I strongly advise anyone looking for a wood clarinet to check them out.
Post Edited (2009-12-30 21:51)
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Author: winstondawg
Date: 2009-12-30 20:36
BentoBandito09:
Before you purchase, if I could trouble you please to send me an email (jcruz9999@gmail.com).
Thanks.
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Author: JJAlbrecht
Date: 2009-12-30 22:44
Your outright dismissal of the instruments listed in the Woodwind Classifieds was unjust. While I would not go near a Venus clarinet under any circumstances, there are any number of reputable members of this BB who sell their instruments there. I have sold several items here, too, including two clarinets, some barrels and a mouthpiece or two. I think you will find that the people I sold them to are quite satisfied..
Buying anything without testing the instrument first is, or can be, risky. This site is probably safer than many, as at least some of the sellers are BB regulars, and can be trusted.
As for me, I would be more concerned with the important aspects of a clarinet (intonation, resistance, scale, tone, etc.) than how it looks. Nobody in the audience will care one bit what your clarinet looks like. How it sounds will be the criterion of judgment.
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