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Author: Chris J
Date: 2009-11-12 01:46
This question has come out of curiosity from another forum.
I have an old Rudall Carte HP Bass Clarinet, and a (poor) copy of an advert for a similar one. The advert is 1935 (my instrument is older). At the bottom of the advert there is the statetment:
Cheaper Foreign-made Clarinets can be supplied. Prices on application
Where would they be coming from then?
CSOs with a Rudall Carte stamp?
Actually quite good stencils from established makers?
Taiwan?...........! :-)
The advert
My instrument
Chris
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Author: Ken Shaw ★2017
Date: 2009-11-12 11:32
Chris -
A beautiful looking bass. To bad it's at high pitch. It appears to go down only to E, so I guess Wagner wasn't being played much in England at the time.
It's interesting that it cost extra to have an instrument in Ebonite instead of wood.
Ken Shaw
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2009-11-12 11:51
I assume the advertisement is from about the same time frame or a bit before.
In any case, it would probably be some place in Europe. I don't think it even could be from any place in East Asia.
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Author: chris moffatt
Date: 2009-11-12 12:24
earlier in the century RC had imported from both Nuernberger at Markneukirchen and Chapelain at La Couture. These probably wouldn't be cheaper than english-made though. I'm tempted to agree that the "cheaper" instruments were possibly Czech-made. Definitely not Taiwan.
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Author: Chris J
Date: 2009-11-12 12:51
From this B&H and Rudall Carte Archival material here:
http://www.horniman.ac.uk/pdf/BH_archive_detailed_handlist.pdf
My Bass could be from the the Stock, Volume 2 spanning 1882 to 1901. (seen on bottom of Vol 2 list on pg 34 - no idea if the dates can be read this way!)
I do know the advert was meant to be from 1935
Later, when B&H used the Rudall Carte name on cheaper instruments, I think they may have come from Czech (or Italy?). I think my Bass comes from the days when Rudall Carte was a well respected maker.
Had B&H taken over Rudall Carte and started putting that name on cheap imports as early as 1935?
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Author: Chris J
Date: 2009-11-12 12:53
I really wasn't being serious when I mentioned Taiwan.....!
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-11-12 15:04
At that time the cheaper foreign instruments would have most likely been either French, Italian or Czech - but would say 'Foreign' on them instead of the country of origin.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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Author: skygardener
Date: 2009-11-12 22:08
"I really wasn't being serious when I mentioned Taiwan.....!"
Oops! Took it seriously. ![[rotate]](http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/smileys/smiley25.gif)
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Author: Chris P
Date: 2009-11-12 23:29
Though the name of Rudall-Carte did happen to find its way onto Taiwanese-built flutes in the 1980s.
Just show what happens when a big company like B&H buys out a well-respected name (or names) and then goes on to tarnish it by stamping it on cheap imports.
Former oboe finisher
Howarth of London
1998 - 2010
The opinions I express are my own.
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